-
 KDE-Apps.org Applications for the KDE-Desktop 
 GTK-Apps.org Applications using the GTK Toolkit 
 GnomeFiles.org Applications for GNOME 
 MeeGo-Central.org Applications for MeeGo 
 CLI-Apps.org Command Line Applications 
 Qt-Apps.org Free Qt Applications 
 Qt-Prop.org Proprietary Qt Applications 
 Maemo-Apps.org Applications for the Maemo Plattform 
 Java-Apps.org Free Java Applications 
 eyeOS-Apps.org Free eyeOS Applications 
 Wine-Apps.org Wine Applications 
 Server-Apps.org Server Applications 
 apps.ownCloud.com ownCloud Applications 
--
-
 KDE-Look.org Artwork for the KDE-Desktop 
 GNOME-Look.org Artwork for the GNOME-Desktop 
 Xfce-Look.org Artwork for the Xfce-Desktop 
 Box-Look.org Artwork for your Windowmanager 
 E17-Stuff.org Artwork for Enlightenment 
 Beryl-Themes.org Artwork for the Beryl Windowmanager 
 Compiz-Themes.org Artwork for the Compiz Windowmanager 
 EDE-Look.org Themes for your EDE Desktop 
--
-
 Debian-Art.org Stuff for Debian 
 Gentoo-Art.org Artwork for Gentoo Linux 
 SUSE-Art.org Artwork for openSUSE 
 Ubuntu-Art.org Artwork for Ubuntu 
 Kubuntu-Art.org Artwork for Kubuntu 
 LinuxMint-Art.org Artwork for Linux Mint 
 Arch-Stuff.org Art And Stuff for Arch Linux 
 Frugalware-Art.org Themes for Frugalware 
 Fedora-Art.org Artwork for Fedora Linux 
 Mandriva-Art.org Artwork for Mandriva Linux 
--
-
 KDE-Files.org Files for KDE Applications 
 OpenTemplate.org Documents for OpenOffice.org
 GIMPStuff.org Files for GIMP
 InkscapeStuff.org Files for Inkscape
 ScribusStuff.org Files for Scribus
 BlenderStuff.org Textures and Objects for Blender
 VLC-Addons.org Themes and Extensions for VLC
--
-
 KDE-Help.org Support for your KDE Desktop 
 GNOME-Help.org Support for your GNOME Desktop 
 Xfce-Help.org Support for your Xfce Desktop 
--
openDesktop.orgopenDesktop.org:   Applications   Artwork   Linux Distributions   Documents    LinuxDaily.com    Linux42.org    OpenSkillz.com   
 
Artwork
News
Groups
Knowledge
Events
Forum
People
Jobs
Register
Login

-
- Poll . 

What's missing in KDE3 beta1?


Posted by  on Dec 29 2001

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home
Speed51%51%51% 51%
Stability13%13%13% 13%
Eye Candy20%20%20% 20%
Apps6%6%6% 6%
Gnome Support11%11%11% 11%
Votes: 3018
goto page:  1  2  3  4 

-

 Eye candy

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 30 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Well, I guess that having eye candy in second position isn't surprising on this site ;-)


Reply to this

-

 reply to myself

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 30 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Anyway, like in the "What do you want to see in KDE 3.0" pool speed is the first choice!


Reply to this

-

 Fight the good fight

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 5 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

So we have made it this far... KDE is great, we are competeing with windows xp but we need to iron out the bugs... there are many but you guys will get there. In my books most important is stability.. second is driver support and third is speed. Throw in some candy and thats a bonus... most of us run high speed machines anyway so we can handle it. Lets hope we can kick some microsoft ass.


Reply to this

-

 Beta

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 30 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Well, stability is obvious, since it is a beta. But speed isn't obvious, so I chose that one.


Reply to this

-

 GNOME support

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 3 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Have you guys honestly tested (and admitted to yourself) that GNOME applications are more concise and offer better *intuitiveness*. Now before you go flaming me for my blasphemous comments on a KDE site, check the following apps out:
Gnumeric (definitely does all that Excel does better and then some)
Galeon (probably the coooolest browser that I've seen this side of the OS divide)
Evolution (this one sure improves your outlook ;)

Let me reiterate that KDE is better than GNOME as an environment but I'm yet to see myself working with KWord or even KSpread. Konqueror too lacks behind Galeon (try it, I swear!!) So, what we need is a healthy acceptance of GNOME and its features into KDE. I'm sure the gains will be all of KDE!


Reply to this

-

 Not a flame...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

but I have a point to make here...

Try this with Galeon:

Split the view window into 2 parts (views), top and bottom.

Unlink the top view and connect to a remote site via SFTP (FTP over SSH). With Konqueror, the address is: "fish://@"

Ensure that the bottom view is linked to the sidebar directory view, and navigate to any directory that you like.

Now drag a file from the bottom view to the top view, transferring it to the remote site.

What's that? Galeon doesn't support any of the above features?

But I thought it was better...

Conquer your desktop.. get Konqueror!


Reply to this

-

 Angle brackets...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

were stripped from my text. The FISH kioslave uses the syntax:
fish://user@domain

I used it last night and was very surprised at how easy it was to do this.. it sure is easier than using a terminal.


Reply to this

-

 umm

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 8 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

because if you read the README and FAQ files in the galeon tarball you'll see it's just meant to be a webbrowser, that's all. fish is awesome in konqueror, but a more comparable feature would be better put in Nautilus


Reply to this

-

 sure...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 9 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

yeah sure it's just meant to be a webbrowser... because it simply CAN'T be anything else.

All this is about code reusability (ie. C vs. C++)...
all GNOME developers hack their way with GTK+, and eventually produce great programs, but there is no way they could reuse the code of their neighbours.

When you code your KDE app, you add 70 lines of auto-generated code, 10 lines of specific code and you are DONE. It's a no brainer : everyone can reuse your program as a KPart with 5 lines of code (I even think the strict minimum is 3 ).

So, sure, GNOME programers claim everywhere an application MUST perform only one specific task...
and in the meantime, they break their heads against the walls trying to have a working integrated environnment with awfully overkilled monsters like CORBA and badly documented APIs...

Well... Bullshits... ;-)


Reply to this

-

 gnome apps

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

what does galeon do better than konqueror? i can think of two things: it uses gecko which does better than khtml/kjs on some sites and it has tabbed browsing. other than those things, the nice features of galeon were all seen in konqueror first.

konqueror is getting tabs as an option (the patch is done but is too late for 3.0. you heard it here first!). khtml/kjs have also received serious attention in CVS, especially after the beta.

in other words, there are more similarities than differences and konqueror is making up where it lacks. of course, it also has a *lot* of features that galeon will never have. ever. (see the previous post)

as an added bonus, konqueror works well, looks proper, and integrates beautifully with the rest of the environment.

expect the same scenario to play out time and again with all the GNOME apps that are currently held to be "better", since if KDE is the better environment it will be a better base for applications.

so instead of supporting apps that are marginally better today, perhaps supporting the development of native KDE apps is a better idea in the long run.

of course, we're all free to use whatever we want.


Reply to this

-

 Galeon VS Konqueror

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 29 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

I am a serious lover of KDE, but, I honestly cannot use Konqueror as my default webrowser because of it's lack of support for java, javascript, and yes even some PHP. I'll continue to use KDE, but I cannot see using Konqueror to do anything but browse my machine. Also, how could anyone compare K-Mail to a program like Evolution ?

This isn't about GNOME VS KDE, it's about applications that are truely useable. Konqueror needs to gain better web support and you can't argue the point. Until the KDE team recognizes this we dont have a truely useable browser. All we have is a file manager that supports SOME html.


Reply to this

-

 PHP, etc

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 2 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

While support for java requires installing something extra, and javascript support may not be perfect (although it works great for me), PHP is entirely server side. Nothing needs to be done in the browser.


Reply to this

-

 Open your eyes

 
 by cshobe on: Aug 17 2002
 
Score 50%

Settings -->Configure Konqueror.

Enable Javascript
Enable Java

PHP is server based.


Reply to this

-

 use?

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 5 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

For Gnumeric I agree, it is much more better than kspread.
For Galeon, as said in the previous post konqueror is much more than a browser, I sometimes use galeon for the tab feature (if I need to open lots of windows it is lighter with tabs).
But Evolution, how can you say this is a good gui? I hate the way this thing look, when I was still using windows I ran outlook express once then closed it and installed eudora.


Reply to this

-

 what about ximian?

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 9 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

i've heard some great things about gnome, but i can't get through it's "mac-like" gui. kde has been, for me at least, a perfect bridge from the micros~1 world to linux and i rather like konqueror, but ximian has just released evolution 1.0 and i've heard nothing but great things about it. unfortunately getting it to work in kde has been less than easy... granted, speed and "shiny" would be a nice add on, but if kde had the added benefits of all of gnome's apps, it would be the best gui for linux-based machines.


Reply to this

-

 evolution

 
 by Ludootje on: Feb 6 2002
 
Score 50%

Yes evolution in my idea kinda sucks, while kmail is the perfect emailclient for me, as galeon is the perfect browser (for me). I personally don't think about 'is this a kde app?' or 'is this a gnome app?' when i run something, but you guys seems to have a different thought of that ;)


Reply to this

-

 Galeon...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 9 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

yeah... comeon, troll, take your Galeon thingy and go click on the left link on this page:
http://www.phoenix-library.org/bug-moz-css.html

The day you manage, then come and tell me your browser is good.

But I'm not fair.
Galeon is actually a great program... too bad Gecko is such a bloated buggy crap...
maybe Galeon developers can switch to gtkHTML ? (GNOME port of KHTML ;-))



Reply to this

-

 Gnome

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 10 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

That is possibly the dumbest shit I've read all day . Congratulations dip shit you've won the moron prize.


Reply to this

-

 GNOME and intuition

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 3 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

I'm seriously considering switching from GNOME to KDE because I'm finding it harder to use than I used to, whereas KDE (now it's less like Windows than it used to be) is looking better integrated, more flexible, easier to tweak and IMO is slightly more "sound" technically due to its C++ foundation (as opposed to faking it in C, which I find a bit painful).

I see what you mean about the apps; gnumeric is a wonderful example of what can be done and has improved tremendously. But "where are the applications" has long been an issue with Linux and other Unices when it comes to desktop support, and if GNOME can host apps as good as Gnumeric, so can KDE! It'll be interesting to see what happens in the future.


Reply to this

-

 Yeah, Yeah....

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 3 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Galeon is very buggy. Most Gnome apps with more than limited functionality are slow and bloated, no to mention ugly, no matter which theme I use. KDE apps on the other hand, have a tendancy to run fast and smoothly, have a consitant UI, and not to mention much better common dialogs (Compare Gnomes's File open with KDE's File open dialogs.). Also, KDE has much better themes. I personally find the default theme to be the best of any UI I've ever used on any platform.

Nautilus is nice, but can you say Bloatware? In either case, it has nothing on Konqueror (I'm yet to see a browser with the same flexibility).


Reply to this

-

 ???

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

For information :
gnumeric, galeon and evolution run on KDE very well so what is the problem with GNOME support ?


Reply to this

-
.

 gnomeapps on kde

 
 by Ludootje on: Feb 6 2002
 
Score 50%

Agree, I had no problems with letting gnome apps run on kde.
getting kmail to run on gnome did caused me some problems:(:(


Reply to this

-
.

 intuitive?

 
 by Ludootje on: Feb 6 2002
 
Score 50%

Gnumeric, galeon & gimp are wonderful apps. I personally prefer kmail to evolution, but that doesn't matter.
The point is you say they are more intuitive. I don't agree at all with that. With *every* KDE app, you will have exact the same menu, which makes configuring etc much easier. Furthermore, you can set up the toolbar with every KDE app, which makes it even more intuitive. So all you do is name some good gnome apps, but that doesn't has anything to do with the intuitivity of gnome.
So you're saying doesn't make any sense...
Ludootje


Reply to this

-

 speed

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 21 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

it is obvious too, because beta are usually compiled with debug information so is slower that final version.


Reply to this

-

 Less EyeCandy

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 30 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Gals, guys, could we please have less eyecandy in kde3. The eyecandy is forcing me to turn to gnome and blackbox. I loved kde once but it's just getting too sluggish. KDE 1.1 was much faster than 2.2.2. Just my nickle and dime.


Reply to this

-

 Ungrateful

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 31 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Whine somewhere else. You should appreciate all the programmers who work so hard for us kde users. Besides, you can turn al the eye candy off. You know that but you just can't resist trolling around.


Reply to this

-

 I do appreciate them

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 31 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

...need to say that I love the work, and the eyecandy in and of itself. It's just that I'm afraid we that we might be getting a tad obsessed with it though. Honestly Phil, I love all of it. These are not just programmers here. They are artists. All of them. But it's all forcing some of us advocates to search elsewhere, and that's a shame. I have always considered myself a KDE diehard. I've been using kde since the very beginning and have watched it mature through many transformations. But it seems to have gotten so heavy, though nice, that I cannot run it on my very basic system. I get paid from volunteer work, so I cannot just buy a new system to run my favorite environment. It's the reason why I've always run linux anyway.

Once again, gals, guys, keep up the good work. I just wished that I could keep up with you:(


Reply to this

-

 Ungrateful

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 31 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Whine somewhere else. You should appreciate all the programmers who work so hard for us kde users. Besides, you can turn al the eye candy off. You know that but you just can't resist trolling around.


Reply to this

-

 Ungrateful

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 31 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Whine somewhere else. You should appreciate all the programmers who work so hard for us kde users. Besides, you can turn al the eye candy off. You know that but you just can't resist trolling around.


Reply to this

-

 eye candy is dandy

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 2 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Well your nickel and dime isnt worth a nickel. Sure KDE has a whole lot of lovely yet functionally useless eye candy. But you can switch all of it off if you like. On top of that, KDE 2 has steadily gotten faster and faster with every release, and if anything the binaries appear smaller considering all the extra stuff in them.


Reply to this

-

 Heartfelt

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 2 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

Ouch....


Reply to this

-

 eye candy

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

the speed issues in kde2 have next to nothing to do with the eye candy improvements. they lie in numerous other areas of the underlying libraries and technologies used. and each of these bottlenecks are slowly but surely being addressed.

unfortunately some development groups (both GNOME and MacOSX come to mind) have reinforced the concept that "looks nice" == "slow". this does not need to be true and the way eye candy is approached in KDE2/3 proves it.


Reply to this

-

 Eye candy vs Speed

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 1 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

If you wanna make a good opinion about it, just Enlightenment 0.17 in CVS : it is still in unstable state but already quite fast !! And it does throw eye candies away !! I think that if KWin would be transparently replaced by another window manager such as E, we would have a short time solution for speed, and long time one for making KDE easily integrated with other Desktop environments...

KDE is KDE-compliant : only kwin works well with it !


Reply to this

-
.

 KDE is KDE-compliant

 
 by Ludootje on: Feb 6 2002
 
Score 50%

yeah right, how about trying it before posting? use icewm as kde wm, and it'll work just fine


Reply to this

-

 thanks all

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 31 2001
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

...need to say that I love the work, and the eyecandy in and of itself. It's just that I'm afraid we that we might be getting a tad obsessed with it though. Honestly Phil, I love all of it. These are not just programmers here. They are artists. All of them. But it's all forcing some of us advocates to search elsewhere, and that's a shame. I have always considered myself a KDE diehard. I've been using kde since the very beginning and have watched it mature through many transformations. But it seems to have gotten so heavy, though nice, that I cannot run it on my very basic system. I get paid from volunteer work, so I cannot just buy a new system to run my favorite environment. It's the reason why I've always run linux anyway.

Once again, gals, guys, keep up the good work. I just wished that I could keep up with you:(


Reply to this

-

 stability

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 1 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

my kde usually crashed when it opened so many window ... it's annoying my work...


Reply to this

-

 simpler ui design

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 2 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

The 'Menu Editor' program shouldn't exist.

The taskbar needs to be re-conceptualized.

Should be able to organise and drag'n'drop menu to menu and menu to desktop (like WIndows).


Reply to this

-

 uh...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 4 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

"The 'Menu Editor' programs houldn't exist."

outside of the K menu, menus remaining static in apps important for usability. the K menu does need some help though, i agree.

"The taskbar needs to be re-conceptualized. "

suggestions? implementations? serious thoughts on the matter? or just empty whining?

"Should be able to organise and Drag'n'drop menu to menu and menu to desktop"

you said you wanted a SIMPLER ui, right?

there are too many armchair coders/designers in this world.


Reply to this

-

 need tabs,menu edit?

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 5 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

hi
need tabs in konqueror is a must now :-) any updates on if it will be included ?

n for the menu editor i think there should also be a right click on the menu entries in the menu itself like wodozz does i think its a good idea, atleast draggin them to different loactions on the kmenu withouth calling up the kmenu edit ? any thoughts on this ?


Reply to this

-

 in menu editing

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 11 2002
 
Score 50%

oeBiFQQTMbwk
Home

being able to edit the KMenu and bookmark menus using RMB menus will be in 3.1. (and maybe DnD editting for those menus, though that isn't there yet)

the majority of menus will remain static (as they should)


Reply to this

goto page:  1  2  3  4 

Add commentAdd commentall pollsSuggest new pollBack



-

-
Do you like or dislike Ubuntu Unity?
 Yes, unity is alien technology!
 It is less confusing than Gnome 3 default, shell.
 Granny thinks it is much more usable than Gnome 2
 Canonical is embarrasing itself with this split project
 Gnome 3 default shell is much better
 I dislike Unity, Gnome 3 default shell is alien technology!
 None of the above, I like the 2Gb for free and Apple alike behavior. Will post a comment instead

resultmore




 
 
 Who we are
Contact
More about us
Frequently Asked Questions
Register
Twitter
Blog
Explore
Artwork
Jobs
Knowledge
Events
People
Updates on identi.ca
Updates on Twitter
Facebook App
Content RSS   
News RSS   
Discussion RSS   
Events RSS   

Participate
Groups
Forum
Add Artwork
Public API
About KDE-Look.org
Legal Notice
Spreadshirt Shop
CafePress Shop
Advertising
Sponsor us
Report Abuse
 

Copyright 2001-2014 KDE-Look.org Team  
All rights reserved. KDE-Look.org is not liable for any content or goods on this site.
All contributors are responsible for the lawfulness of their uploads.
KDE and K Desktop Environment are trademarks of KDE e.V.