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What's missing in KDE3 beta1?


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 What's missing?

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 28 2002
 
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Most people choose computer software with specific applications in mind. For example: "MYSQL on KDE on Linux is a cheap and convenient way to keep track of stray dogs and cats." Now that KDE has reached a good level of usability more emphasis should be placed on application development.


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 SPEED problem

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 6 2002
 
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Hi

just try this: open konqueror... wait... ok it's open.

You'll all noticed that konqueror is way too slow to start, at least on slow machines.

Now press CTRL-N while konqui is running. Waw ! A new window in half a second !

Why do you think IE opens fast ? Because it's preloaded.

What we just need is to open konqueror using the running process ! That's so simple I don't understand why nobody things of that...


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 Konqueror

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 8 2002
 
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Because not everyone uses Konqueror ?


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 Konqueror

 
 by anonymous on: Feb 8 2002
 
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Because not everyone uses Konqueror ?


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 and ?

 
 by julo on: Feb 10 2002
 
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Those who don't use konqueror won't benefit of KDE power... Where 's the problem ?

Do you want KDE to stop its developpement because some people still use GNOME or Windows ?

Total nonsense...


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 konqueror

 
 by dek on: Feb 12 2002
 
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Well, i use krusader for filemanaging and opera or mozilla for web-browsing most of the time. How should i benefit from preloading konqueror ? I don't use it very often. It would only slowdown my system. It is the freedom of choice i like about linux, bsd, ..
So if the KDE-developers decide to implement it, please make it optional.


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 btw

 
 by dek on: Feb 12 2002
 
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.. it is no big deal to preload applications on startup. Put them in your kde autostart folder. And if you like to pop them up directly launch them with kstart. I don't see where the problem is..


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 optional?

 
 by Amibug on: Feb 13 2002
 
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Atleast this would be a great option.

Or maybe it could only start once the first konqueror session was opened.


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 Re: SPEED problem

 
 by fenn on: Jan 5 2005
 
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three years later and this is still an issue... hrm. I'm running icewm as the window manager and using konqueror as the file manager and web browser. much faster. desktop boots up in about one second on my 400 mHz laptop. konqueror would take about 40 seconds to launch a "preloaded instance" when KDE was the desktop, but when running icewm it takes about 15 straight off the disk. not good, but not bad either. It's still a significant improvement over "preloading" to just dump the kde window manager, and there's no loss in functionality, at least for what I do. All those kdeinits make looking at the process list confusing anyway.

since 15 seconds is still too slow for me I wrote a one-line script that uses DCOP to tell konqueror to open a new window using the currently running process, and plunked that on the desktop. bam! google displays in three seconds.

"dcop $(dcop konqueror* | head -1) KonquerorIface openBrowserWindow http://www.google.com/"

that should all be on one line, without the quotes.
paste that line in a text file ~/Desktop/google.sh
then, "chmod o+x ~/Desktop/google.sh"

Now, if I could only figure out how to do that with an arbitrary file on the desktop, say if I wanted to look at a .jpg on the desktop without waiting 15 seconds to load konqueror. It's currently an order of magnitude faster to hit ctrl-N in konqueror and drag the file into the new window than to just double click the icon, but that takes too much mental effort to be a useful way to do things.

I wonder why kdesktop exists at all. I would just draw icons on the desktop in a fullscreen konqueror window that has a funny focus policy. kdesktop isn't much use anyway without the rest of KDE installed.


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 Re: Re: SPEED problem

 
 by fenn on: Apr 30 2007
 
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here is that same one-line script, having evolved and matured a bit over the years:
http://fenn.freeshell.org/gnurds/newkonq.sh


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 More speed...

 
 by Rocky on: Feb 18 2002
 
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KDE is pretty fast on the whole, but konqueror web-browsing is wayyy too slow compared to its peers.

They need to really tune the browser section of KDE. Other than that, it's the greatest looking and has the best functionality of any of them..

But I still like the others because of competition and they also have their own good points.

IceWM and it's minimalism, Gnome really pushing the heavy design stuff, and KDE in the middle.


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