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The menu bar


Posted by Yaba on Oct 7 2009
Save the menu bar!39%39%39% 39%
Move to the top (like Mac OS)25%25%25% 25%
Kill it! It's an old relic16%16%16% 16%
Ribbons are not too bad9%9%9% 9%
Context menu is good enough4%4%4% 4%
Don't care7%7%7% 7%
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 menubar...

 
 by TheRob on: Oct 7 2009
 
Score 50%

...the neverending discussion about the menubar.

imo, kill it.

it's slow, and today we like to find what we are
looking for fast, and that is not fast... ...enough.

the menues could be made "better", by adding
a "filter" plugin to the menues, ie , press alt+f (file)
and start typing "properties" and it should automatically
filter the stuff that doesn't have to do with the
properties search. yes, this is like how the vista menu
works, and say what you want but it's fast and
very usable.

also, ms office 07 has some nice new functions
to rid the menubar... so if even ms has discovered
that the menubar is "obsolete" why can't we?

kill kill kill the menubar!

personally I would like a more iconic interface
with as little text as possible. that would make
translations easier also... ...but that's another
topic.

//Robert


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 keep the menu bar!

 
 by janet on: Oct 9 2009
 
Score 50%

I love the approach of good old Amarok1 where you had all the menu in one button. I too love the approach of gimp with its voluptuous "context" menu (I *love* RMB menus). But in Gimp I'm also glad that it now has a menu bar mirroring the RMB menu. I'd like to keep the menu bar for KDE apps.

I'm not quite sure what would be the absolutely worst case for me - changing menus or a Mac bar. Both are kind of a nightmare for me:

A forced menu bar at the top like in in MacOS would heavily interfere with my panel at the top of the screen for the taskmanager and a button to open yakuake. I wouldn't be willing to give it up.

And I hate changing menus. I hated them when they were introduced in Windows a long time ago. I just am not able to work with them because I am heavily visually oriented. I need to see everything to know it's there and I need to find things at a fixed place in an application window.


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 If KDE goes to a top menu bar

 
 by TeeAhr1 on: Oct 10 2009
 
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 Re: If KDE goes to a top menu bar

 
 by amoebios on: Oct 10 2009
 
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We're talking menu bar, not panel. i disabled the menubar and added a button to toggle it, if needed. (in applications that allow it) KILLKILLKILL!!!!


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 Re: Re: If KDE goes to a top menu bar

 
 by CyberTribe on: Oct 10 2009
 
Score 50%

+1
made the same thing for every kde app - just a button to show/hide menubar.
so bad that it can't be done everywhere.


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 Re: If KDE goes to a top menu bar

 
 by AMO88 on: Oct 10 2009
 
Score 50%

While I'm not much a fan of the top menubar, once I got a small laptop, I did see the potential since it would really save some space. First of all, the applications would take up less space if stacked vertically. But more importantly, I could use up the space to the right of the menubar for the clock, systray, pager, and plasmoids that take up way too much space (battery monitor, wireless, etc) leaving the bottom for the task bar. I could then set the task bar to one row, since I would have enough space to see all the applications.

Furthermore, I remember reading about an idea of making a window operations plasmoid to close/minimize the windows. if those buttons were put in the top panel, the titlebar could actually become pretty useless especially for really small netbooks, and that could improve the screen real-estate usage quite dramatically.


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 The Menu bar beats all

 
 by CyberWasteland on: Oct 10 2009
 
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I'm a big fan of the menu bar and would hate to see it go. If people want an alternative like the fixed-top-menu of OSX, or a ribbon interface (blerch), fine, but I want to be able to keep my trusted menu bar!

I have not yet seen any alternative that is simpler and more handy then the menu bar.


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 Re: The Menu bar beats all

 
 by takanowaka on: Oct 25 2009
 
Score 50%

i would like to see some change here.. it would be great if menubar could act more like ordinary toolbar -> detachable/movable with options which menus are shown/hidden and possibility to change visual style (text/icons/icons with text) etc.. same goes for statusbar..


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 Re: Re: The Menu bar beats all

 
 by takanowaka on: Oct 25 2009
 
Score 50%

hmm.. and i think that if you add events to normal toolbar you get ribbon.. like when i'm doing something change layout to another one.. i don't see evil here.. the only problem in win with it is that you can't disable/edit those events and you can't edit the menus (at least i couldn't find the way how to do it)


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 Re: Re: Re: The Menu bar beats all

 
 by CyberWasteland on: Oct 27 2009
 
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I think ribbon is very annoying and limiting to work with and don't see why it would be any better.
When you have a lot of functions it gets clogged up and you just can't have as many as is needed.
A menu bar + some toolbars and even better context menus are still the fastest and easies way to do it.
Ribbon annoys the shit out of me, I can't stand using it, it's just too much stupid shitty icons. Keep it simple.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: The Menu bar beats all

 
 by takanowaka on: Oct 27 2009
 
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hmm.. 1. in some apps like kmail, akregator ktorrent i would like to move all functions of menubar in one icon because i'm not really using it and it's only taking space
2. in some apps like kolourpaint i use more functions but definitely not all.. here i would probably prefer ribbon..
3. in openoffice apps if i was inexperienced user i would probably want ribbon so i can learn what i can do.. but as i use it extensively i definitely choose menubar/ordinary toolbar and customize it to suite my needs.. sum it up i think that menubar needs to change from static menu to editable and if possible have also ribbon alternative (which can be turned off) in all apps


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Menu bar beats all

 
 by CyberWasteland on: Oct 28 2009
 
Score 50%

As I said, as long as I get to keep my menubar I'm fine with alternatives, but I won't be using them myself.

I mean this is Linux, customizability is our thing. We can add an extra setting to go for a top-menu and apps should be able to have a ribbon style available too.


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 Let us choose!

 
 by Montblanc on: Oct 12 2009
 
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Bespin already provides a Macish menu bar, so there should be a ribbon menu too. I don't care which one will be made default, but as long as I can *choose*, I'll be very happy.


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 vote a second time.

 
 by dummy on: Oct 13 2009
 
Score 50%

Here you can vote for this idea.
http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php?sid=7d37897e3c3d6574c53abcb8c7bfaa66#idea61999


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