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How do you like KDE 4.2?


Posted by Yaba on Jan 28 2009
Better than KDE 3.515%15%15% 15%
A huge improvement over 4.120%20%20% 20%
Finally a usable release11%11%11% 11%
KDE is back!11%11%11% 11%
I am still missing some things8%8%8% 8%
Nice, but I won't switch back from Gnome yet (Hi Linus!)4%4%4% 4%
Still some bugs7%7%7% 7%
Major bugs - can't use it3%3%3% 3%
Simply don't like it. KDE has lost me4%4%4% 4%
Still stuck with KDE 3.59%9%9% 9%
Haven't tried it yet7%7%7% 7%
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 :)

 
 by MastroPino on: Jan 30 2009
 
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 Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by Suayb on: Jan 31 2009
 
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I think that the main problem is the people doesn't open to the new concepts. I think they doesn't want to leave old habits. I'm using Linux with KDE for 8 years and the KDE 4 concept is one step next to all the other desktop's concepts , including Mac and Windows. And sorry for my lack of English.


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 Re: Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by k3ks on: Feb 1 2009
 
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I'm open for new concepts and i really like the pillars of KDE4. But for now i can't find anything that is of use to me, which i can't have with my gnome desktop, so i'm stuck with it.
But i think a mature decibel and a people plasmoid would make me change for example. Or an RSSnow Akgregator integration. Or an plasmoid that allows me to see my Akonadi mailinbox.
Maybe KDE4.3 makes me change.


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 Re: Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by FrozenFox on: Feb 4 2009
 
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That's pretty ridiculous. If the majority of us weren't open to new concepts, we more than likely wouldn't be on linux.

I've tried to like kde4. I really have. I keep going to it for a week or two at a time, then finally getting sick of the problems and going back to something usable. Everything new seems useless or close to it, several things old are broken or nonexistent, and everything being worked on seems to be glitchy. At the moment, I'm clinging to kde3 as the last usable environment for me on linux. As a user who used linux literally over 99% of the time on the computer over the last 3 years, I'm tired enough of the problems of the present to move back to windows (w7 ho?), at least for a while. Which is frightening.

For example: for some unexplainable reason, 4.2 (didnt happen in 4.1, which worked fine incl. effects) will lag many (not all, somehow) 3d/gl apps, even started in a new x session, down to 4 fps. KDE itself magically runs seemingly perfect in that area with its effects, but docks and games' performance is abysmal. Glxgears, 2 fps tops. Killing desktop effects (worked fine in 4.1) doesnt help. I kill kde4/kdm and try gdm/kde3? All works perfectly again.

Another example: cut/copy/paste only works half the time. I cut, paste from desktop to another folder? Wont work unless i had the folder open when i hit 'cut' usually. Or drag n dropped it. Majority of the time, if i try to paste file/folders -into- a folder, it fails. Doesnt even move.

Another: Ark crashes. Constantly. Wrong password? Crash. Extract? Maybe.

Also -- I'd really like the trash can icon available in konqueror toolbars again, as well as one for storage media.. which you can't seem to do any more. And right click + close to konsole tabs..

Etc etc. I hope kde4.3 is better.. 4.2 is an improvement, but still not even usable imo. Fyi, I've tried this across several distributions and had similar issues.


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 Re: Re: Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by Suayb on: Feb 4 2009
 
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I take up the KDE 4's concept and i said it is in one step forward to all the other desktop's concepts. You said that you had some trouble with KDE 4 but i didn't said "there is no problem in KDE 4", i'm using KDE 4 and some KDE 3.5 programs, they are different things the desktop's tool support and the desktop's concept. It's clearly visible that the plasma concept is totaly different, and i thought there is a lot of Linux people who aren't open to new concepts.

Sorry for my lack of English.


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 Re: Re: Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by darkphoenixff4 on: Feb 8 2009
 
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"Another: Ark crashes. Constantly. Wrong password? Crash. Extract? Maybe."

I suggest tossing Ark completely and using Q7Z instead. It works a whole lot better (though I do miss Ark), and I think Ark is likely dying (which would explain why it hasn't been fixed yet).


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 Re: Re: Re: Plasma is in one step next.

 
 by FrozenFox on: Feb 8 2009
 
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Thanks for the suggestion. :) I will try Q7Z out for sure next time I venture back to kde4 for a while (and inevitably come back to kde3, as usual). A friend of mine was also frustrated with current compression program choices, so I'll be sure to refer her to it as well.


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 They screwed it up...

 
 by ruel24 on: Feb 1 2009
 
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I hate to say it, but KDE 4.x just pales in comparison to KDE 3.5.x. Why did they have to be so drastic in changing KDE?

The UI is not as comfortable as before. I hate Plasma, and it's extremely buggy for me. I hate Gnome too much to go there, but I'm staying at KDE 3.5 as long as I can hold out.


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 Re: They screwed it up...

 
 by jadrian on: Feb 2 2009
 
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Can you point out some things that make it less comfortable? Or some of th worst bugs?


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 Re: Re: They screwed it up...

 
 by lesserdevil on: Feb 7 2009
 
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It's like nobody listens when provided with long lists of problems. Ark crashes about 80% of the time. Cut and paste is screwed in a bunch of different ways.

Options for customization have been greatly complicated BECAUSE the options have been made overly simple. Simple is not always better. Simplistic crap is for Windows users.

You'd like an example? Compare the desktop appearance tab under "appearance settings" to "desktop settings" on KDE 3.5. On KDE 4.2 you have to go several different places to configure little settings like power control, the taskbar appearance, etc. On KDE 3.5 it was all right there. They made it simpler, and therefore more complicated for the experienced user. It takes WAY MORE TIME to make my desktop look the way I want it to look. And that's just the appearance.

The system tray widget has strange graphics problems. The application launcher widget sometimes disappears when other things are opened. The bugs go on and on and on.

My screen goes dark because of power management, even though I have turned off power management every single place I can find one. Then when I move the mouse the screen has been locked. And guess what... I turned off screen lock over and overt trying to prevent that from happening. I have a 36 digit password and my screen locks if I'm gone for more than five minutes. That's messed up like a son-of-a-bitch.

And I'm still using KDE 4.2. I still want it to work. I think it has great potential.

I haven't even scratched the surface of the bugs. I don't have time to fill out bug reports for KDE. If they can't find their own bugs it's not my problem. I have enough problems surviving in a collapsing economy. If they don't fix some of the major bugs soon I'm going to give up on it. And that sucks, because KDE was something that gave me great joy in the past.


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 Re: Re: Re: They screwed it up...

 
 by darkphoenixff4 on: Feb 8 2009
 
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"My screen goes dark because of power management, even though I have turned off power management every single place I can find one. Then when I move the mouse the screen has been locked. And guess what... I turned off screen lock over and overt trying to prevent that from happening. I have a 36 digit password and my screen locks if I'm gone for more than five minutes. That's messed up like a son-of-a-bitch."

Actually, I have never not had this problem. KDE3, KDE4, they all suffered from this on my system... I actually suspect the REAL culprit is GNOME. GNOME programs insist on running certain services when they start, and first among them is gnome-screensaver, which happens to do GNOME power management. I find that it is this, not KDE, that keeps locking the screen.


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 No hope

 
 by bitcrazy on: Feb 1 2009
 
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I really can't see any improvements on KDE4, but a lot of things, that don't work in a way I want it. For me there's no sense in switching to KDE4, while KDE3 is still alive. I'm using KDE since the st version, but perhaps I really should do an indeep investigation on Gnome. Till now, when I think "Gnome", I see "brown" and I see "Ubuntu" and it's somewhat boring, but I like the blink-blink of KDE.
So time will tell.


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 Re: No hope

 
 by JeepNut on: Feb 2 2009
 
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I agree with this poster.
I'm NOT closed minded. Otherwise I would never have made the leap to KDE4.1 I WANT it to work, but 4.1 just doesn't for me. Most of what I want to do with my PC doesn't work with KDE4.
Kaffeine is hobbled. (now using KMPlayer which fixes 95% of what is wrong with Kaffeine)
Gwenview is weakened. (what happened to simple bookmarks?)
k3b simply doesn't work anymore to copy DVDs or create a disc from .iso files and seems to crash a lot now. (which is VERY sad as Sebastian has an EXCELLENT software...under KDE3)
Dolphin seems really unnecessary and doesn't work smooth like Konqueror used to. What is the point of Dolphin?
Konqueror which WAS the Swiss Army Knife of KDE3 is now broken for browsing sites Flash-enabled and locks up my system on various sites requiring constant resets. I've had to install Firefox to get painless browsing functionality.
What is this "plasma" stuff? How is it useful? It seems to have mostly removed simplicity and functionality.
How is this better than KDE 3.x?
I WILL say that amarok2 is the one shining star.
Not trying to be "Negative Nellie"...I would welcome someone to explain the point of this "plasma" stuff... Meanwhile I'm spending HOURS a day, most EVERYday since the first of the year just trying to get basic things to work...


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 Re: Re: No hope

 
 by undefined on: Feb 2 2009
 
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I'm using KDE for Version 1 and I think the Developers from KDE have too much up belonged the Brainstorming. Many of my friend that using KDE to trow that same thing. Curently i can't using KDE4 (to many crashes) but I can use all KDE4 Applications from KDE 3 Enviroment I clasp hence it's Plasma that makes this Problems.


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 Re: Re: No hope

 
 by bitcrazy on: Feb 3 2009
 
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Exactly. I don't need dolphin; first thing was to change filemanager back to konqueror (which I never used as a webbrowser). I try to smoothly replace KDE3 apps with stable KDE4 apps. But as written above, k3b and kaffeine (no dvb) are unuseable and amarok doesn't support mediaplayers 'til now. So I use kdepim4 and some utilities like krename, smb4k and the games (don't do any harm). Shouldn't it be the other way round: First the desktop, followed by the apps?
From KDE1 to 2 and further to KDE3 first thing I used was the environment, migrating the apps.
I'm really awaiting the distros, which announce to not support KDE3 anymore in their next releases.

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 Re: No hope

 
 by k3ks on: Feb 27 2009
 
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he, that's funny. because i like gnome for it's bling bling. in kde4 i have oxygen, qtcurve and only two or three ugly styles. And i have so much more gtk styles to choose from.
i'm not that happy with the oxygen widget style (and less happy with the oxygen plasma theme) so that's also one reason tho stay with gnome for me.
maybe we could help each other. :)


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 Won't switch before >= 4.5

 
 by baudolino on: Feb 3 2009
 
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We recently built our own distro. First, we wanted to go with KDE4 but after compiling and fixing and compiling again for days, we decided to stay with the latest KDE3.5. At least this version is functional in ALL aspects out of the box. We are really looking forward to KDE4 because many users are addicted to eye-candy but for now and the near future KDE3.5 rocks!


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 Re: Won't switch before >= 4.5

 
 by Gnominator on: Feb 7 2009
 
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Agree. Was on GNOME. Then tried to switch to KDE4.1 (!) but *that* just can't do some simple things I want to do. So now I'm on KDE 3.5.10 and I think that KDE3's better. At least till KDE4 is so unusuable.


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 multiple choice

 
 by 5er on: Feb 7 2009
 
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This would work better as a multiple choice poll.
I'm not saying that a multiple choice poll should be developed for the site, I'm just saying this poll would have more exact results if it was multiple choice.


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