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Your opinion about keeping KDE4s look secret?

Posted by Yaba on Feb 20 2006
Absolutely agree.12%12%12% 12%
Agree.5%5%5% 5%
I understand, but I am curious.39%39%39% 39%
I can't understand this decission.11%11%11% 11%
I want to see it. Now!19%19%19% 19%
Have a strong opinion against that.7%7%7% 7%
I don't care.7%7%7% 7%
Votes: 1031
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 My opinion on this

 by Yaba on: Feb 20 2006
Score 50%

At first I didn't understand it and my thought was that a open source project should not have any secrets, but in the meantime I changed my opinion.

Let's see all the Vista style clones. Vista looks great, but since I am using similar styles for several weeks I am starting to getting bored.

It would be a pitty to finally get KDE 4 that introduces a brand new style, but which is is use for months through clones and therefore not really new anymore.

I blog, therefore I am.
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 Re: My opinion on this

 by motyR on: Feb 20 2006
Score 50%

totally agreed.
i really like the way that the oxigen project is working, you want to see the changes and so, submit to the the mailing list, otherwise hold on till it'll come out to the public.

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 Re: Re: My opinion o

 by maitre on: Feb 22 2006
Score 50%

I'll disagree with you both, and play devil's advocate.

I'd personally like the core developers to put less time into changing the appearance on every iteration, and focus on support for end users to not have to create things like deKorator, decgen, or what bitwit and I have been doing for a while now.

Keeping the look of KDE 4 secret would only be worth it if when it was finally publicly viewable, the KDE and F/OSS software communities reacted in much the same way XGL and compiz were reacted too. (I had tears in my eyes, well... close.)

"The bazaar software model doesn't work so well with everyone taking and not contributing back." - Fyodor
Den 4 F/OSS Developer

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 My opinion

 by Qrjusz on: Feb 20 2006
Score 50%

Well i simply don't care about this. Since i'm using LINUX i never use "regular" look. I'm always tryin' to change window look, menu bar, color style etc.

But for some one who is using the regular look that's better to keep this in secret: he'll have a bigger surpirsie.

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 by bram85 on: Feb 20 2006
Score 50%

However I don't really understand why you would do that (open source!), it would only raise the expectations of the big great public.

You see it everywhere. Products with high expectations may be disappointing when the final is there.

Bram Schoenmakers
KDE Netherlands (www.kde.nl)

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 Re: Expectations

 by logixoul on: Feb 21 2006
Score 50%

That's why we all have to do everything possible not to disappoint people, it's that simple.

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 by quispie on: Feb 21 2006
Score 50%

I am so curious, someone already has seen it (osdir or zdnet something like that?) and he said it looked fresh and clean, so i`m dying to see it. but one thing is for sure it`ll gonna rule!
Sorry for my english

SUSE LINUX 10.0 - KDE 3.5.1
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 Not really

 by DIHLOFOS on: Feb 21 2006
Score 50%

No. Its gonna suck once released. No one can design something that is pleasing to every eye out there. So, they will release as you said “plain and simple” and then, someone will come up with themes and styles for it.

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 It's about OSS

 by SegFault on: Feb 21 2006
Score 50%

I voted for "I have a strong feeling against this".
"Why?" you ask?

I first thought it would be a great "marketing" to make the people curious.
It even would avoid the problem that appeared with the Crystal Icons and Keramik.
When it was finally released, everyone knew it already, it wasn't fresh and exciting anymore.

But the other way round:
KDE is OSS (or do I have to say FS?).
This brings me to two points:
  1. F/OSS should be about "Release early and often", so hiding the development process from the public isn't what F/OSS is all about.

  2. As KDE is F/OSS, you can't avoid leaking information through.
    Everyone is able to get a copy from anonymous-svn, see what is there, make screenshots and publish them on kde-look or on some other site.
    So if you even know right from the beginning you can't avoid users from getting "previews" of the comming version of KDE, so why should you even try to do so?

Don't try to make a secret of features and what KDE4 will look like.
They won't stay secrets and IMHO they shouldn't.
Often a more open and publicly reviewable development model is wanted - so go ahead and tell us everything about KDE4. Codes & Styles.

Just my 0.02 EUR

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 Re: It's about OSS

 by nunopinheiro on: Feb 22 2006
Score 50%

Well, what to say?
Ok frist things icons.
The oxygen project has not matured enough to da a public release of them, (we plan to do such thing wen its ready) for instance the action icons are being redesign again :( (me to blaim), and so do much more icons. kde 4 is stil one year from now making a wide public release would remove some impact from it.
Any way we will be more and more public about it, some times we are not has public, cause simple we dont have the time to do so, i kid you not, but i promiss to try to get back to at least weekly bloging with some previwes of what we are doing there.
Oxygen at the moment is way more than a plain icon theme.
And some of the results can already be seen has html kde related pages, and more will come.

well, there is something wrong here..... oooo it's me.
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