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Minimum required   Qt 4.x
Downloads:  70384
Submitted:  Aug 8 2007
Updated:  Apr 25 2013

Description:

A widget style for Qt4
- Pretty configurable
- More Mac than Windows - but no clone at all
- Don't ask me to port Baghira ;-)

As for what to do with GTK+ applications, have a look here:
http://arch-stuff.org/content/show.php?content=134123

It suites the default look pretty well. Set the "Default" titlebar background colors to 239/239/240 and the text to something dark/gray.

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Thalics complete Bespin Guide is afaik still down, sorry :-(




Changelog:

SVN PATH UPDATE
Due to sf.net updates, the code is now tracked here:
svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/cloudcity/code/ cloudcity-code




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 hide slider on inactive window

 
 by MountainX on: Jun 27 2010
 
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Is it possible to hide the sliders (scroll bars) on inactive windows?

IMO Bespin should be the default KDE style. :)


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 Re: hide slider on inactive window

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jun 27 2010
 
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theoretically yes (and i guess and see that it would stress the inactive state) but the scrollbars have an indicator task (next to the interface task), ie. they hint your current position in and the size of the scrollable area.
also scrolling works on inactive windows.

so do you really think this would be a good idea?

(another way would maybe to separate the -unhovered- color in inactive windows so they can be like white in inactive windows and black on active ones and hover to blue each)


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 Re: Re: hide slider on inactive window

 
 by MountainX on: Jun 27 2010
 
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I like your suggestion to separate the functional colors in inactive windows vs active windows. That would be really cool. It would certainly help me make the look of my workspace as clean as possible.

I would like it if the slider color could almost blend with the other window elements on inactive windows so they become nearly hidden.

Personally, I would also like the opposite effect on active windows -- I'd like the sliders to have even more contrast. A lot of times I can't tell the position of the sliders in active windows with a quick glance because the slider element lacks distinction.

Thanks for your quick reply and your great work on Bespin!


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 Re: Re: Re: hide slider on inactive window

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jun 28 2010
 
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you're aware that you can config the color (role) for the un/hovered slider? (but it's oc the same for active and inactive windows atm)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: hide slider on inactive window

 
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yes, thank you. I have been playing around with the hovered/unhovered colors. It's nice, but that doesn't really address my needs. My problem is that cannot easily see the scroll bars (with default colors) so I have to hunt for them before I can even hover.

Actually, something like what Mac OS X uses would be perfect. I'm typing this on a Mac and my active window scroll bar is blue (unhovered). All inactive window scroll bars are silver/white. It's a nice look and very functional.


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 Icons

 
 by Bojan9 on: Jun 29 2010
 
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Ehen i try to build icon theme i get for each icon this error:
99.9 % ./generate_kde_icons.sh: line 107: inkscape: command not found
composite: unable to open image `nmfnms/16x16/.pool/disc.png': @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2491.
composite: unable to open file `nmfnms/16x16/.pool/disc.png' @ error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3025.
composite: missing an image filename `nmfnms/16x16/.pool/disc.png' @ error/composite.c/CompositeImageCommand/1607.

And folder nmfnms is full of icons which size iz 0B.
I use Arch with KDE 4.4.4
Any advice.


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 Re: Icons

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 4 2010
 
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install inkscape ;-)
(svg tool, kinda illustrator - QtSVG is not capable of all inkscape svg fields)


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 Application icons...

 
 by CraigD on: Jul 2 2010
 
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Just noticed a very odd thing. When using transparent backgrounds (i.e. ARGB) some applications (e.g. kcalc and dolphin) use the plain X icon for their window and taskbar entries. Turning off transparency, and they're OK.


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 Re: Application icons...

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 4 2010
 
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Happens with QtCurve as well, heh?! ;-)

The reason is that whenever you set the translucency flag, Qt will create a new widget under the hood, replacing the old.

Unfortunately some properties are lost, among them the window icon.

Luckily this is most easily to fix (just that bespin has no icon in the titlebar and i don't use a taskbar)

Fix in rev. 1144, basicall do:
QIcon icn = widget->windowIcon();
widget->setAttribute(Qt::WA_TranslucentBackground);
widget->setWindowIcon(icn);


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 Re: Re: Application icons...

 
 by CraigD on: Jul 5 2010
 
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...yup you guessed it, spotted via QtCurve! But noticed Bespin had this issue. Thanks for the fix!


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 XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 8 2010
 
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Hi, Thomas!
Since there is no documentation on XBar configuration, could you tell me some config keys other than these ones, please?

ShowTaskbar=false
FontScale=1.0
WindowList=true

More specifically, I would like to hide that "Plasma" button which shows my workspaces, but none of them seems to do the trick!

Thank you in advance and keep on rocking! ;)


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 Re: XBar config keys

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 10 2010
 
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except for fontscale, no other key is in use anymore (as the taskbar has been dropped entirely and i forced a window list on the main menu)

removing the "Plasma" entry (it's the window list and the only forced element in the custom menu) isn't that simple, i'd probably have to ad a special case.

Do you want to get rid of only this entry or any bar when no supported window is focussed?


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 Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 10 2010
 
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Well, if you ask, I'd like to completely hide this entry; I don't know what you mean with "any bar when no supported window is focused", probably because it never happened in my case. I see the "Plasma" windows list when no KDE app is focused or when a gtk app is focused. I would like XBar to just show the menubar of supported KDE/Qt apps and to show nothing in any other case. Could you really implement this feature? :)


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 Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 10 2010
 
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that particular bar is xml driven and supports random entries + popups (so you could eg. emulate the normal gnome bar with apps & settings & stuff - or anything else)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 10 2010
 
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Sorry for double posting. I don't actually care about gtk and other unhandled apps, I just need that "Plasma" to be gone, but if you tell me it's possibile to handle those ones too, I would give it a try anyway.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 10 2010
 
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Ok, sorry for misunderstanding. -.- I didn't have enough coffee, today... It would be great to emulate the gnome panel, however, I would like an option to enable/disable this feature. I know this is obviously not high priority for you, but I hope you'll take care of it in the future! ;) Please, keep up the exellent work! (and sorry!)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 11 2010
 
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a documentation to the menu structure can be found at http://cloudcity.sf.net/xbar.html

also latest revisions show this link if you have no configuation file in place.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 11 2010
 
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Thanks, I'll give it a look!



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 Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by Montblanc on: Jul 10 2010
 
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Well, if you ask, I'd like to completely hide this entry; I don't know what you mean with "any bar when no supported window is focused", probably because it never happened in my case. I see the "Plasma" windows list when no KDE app is focused or when a gtk app is focused. I would like XBar to just show the menubar of supported KDE/Qt apps and to show nothing in any other case. Could you really implement this feature? :)


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 Re: Re: Re: XBar config keys

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 10 2010
 
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2nd attempt:
when you activate a Qt/KDE app, you get it's menu

otherwise you get a "general" menu, including the "plasma" entry.

this "general" menu allows you to add random entries, controlled by an xml file (there's an example MainMenu.xml in the source dir)

however the plasma entry is currently "forced" (as the label of the first entry gets a special treatment, eg. "File" -> "KWrite")

i could either deactivate the "general" menu or seek to prevent the special treatment of the first entry for this particular menu and remove the "plasma" entry alongside the windowlist popup (until you re-add it via the xml configuration)

there's no support for non Qt applications at all


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 Blurring buggy

 
 by Ireyon on: Jul 9 2010
 
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The blur areas are not computed properly. EG, the config windows of Kopete or the main window Kontact are missing areas. Then, when moving a window, it gets a little transparent per default, but then the whole window must be blurred. But currently it doesn't.

Why not simply use the full window area as blur region?


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 Re: Blurring buggy

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 10 2010
 
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they're currently not updated if opaque area shapes change, i suppose this is happening for you.

the "not blurring moving windows" thing is more a blur plugin issue, as the client (bespin) cannot possibly now about WM internal translucency and actually should not care about global translucency either (for decorated windows)

using the entire window area would create a HUGE overhead for eg. a browser etc. and if you search bugs.kde.org you'll find some reports about the blur plugin being slow or causing high cpu load - even w/o translucent bespin windows.
this is probably not a problem on a GTX480, but would be an inacceptable waste for many others.


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 Re: Re: Blurring buggy

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 11 2010
 
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dynamic blur region calculation should be fixed in current versions


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 bespin + aurorae bug

 
 by yagami on: Jul 9 2010
 
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hi

i am testing bespin with aurorae window deco.

dunno why, using oxygen or another toolkit style doesnt happen, but when using bespin , aurorae deco looks like this :
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8458/bespinaurore.jpg

is this a bespin bug or aurorae ? it only happens with bespin.

thanks :)


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 Re: bespin + aurorae bug

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 10 2010
 
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doesn't happen here, please send me your bespin config (and if possible the arorae theme as well)

are you actually using kwin or compiz?


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 Re: Re: bespin + aurorae bug

 
 by yagami on: Jul 11 2010
 
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i am using kwin with aurorae.

actually , you can use any bespin theme ( transparent or not ), and any aurorae theme.

at first it didnt also happened. but i tried to change aurorae border size settings and it started to happen.

now it always happens.

it doesnt happen with qtcurve though ( i mean if i use qtcurve + aurorae )

thanks


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 Re: Re: Re: bespin + aurorae bug

 
 by thomas12777 on: Jul 11 2010
 
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a) which arorae version? (from kde 4.4 or some 4.5 pre)
b) please check whether it also happens if you set the background mode to "plain" and NOT glassy, no circles etc. either (and restart kwin, "kwin --replace&")


(sorry, but i'm still entirely unable to reproduce this, it looks like WA_TranslucentBackground has been removed from the deco window, while this should not even be possible... :-\ )


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 Re: Re: Re: bespin + aurorae bug

 
 by thomas12777 on: Aug 7 2010
 
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Just in cas you're not the kwin bug reporter or didn't notice anyway:

I still don't know what caused this, but it's fixed with the broad sword since a few days =)


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