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Downloads:  9157
Submitted:  Nov 22 2002
Updated:  Nov 27 2002

Description:

I have tried to make my menu/kicker idea useable, subtle and expandable.

The idea came from those trading card games, you make your deck depending on how you work and each card in your deck is part of your overall strategy.

I have only really showed 2 'cards' here, the Information center and the taskbar, but you can have as many as you like with whatever application/function you want on them.

there are further explanations on the screen shots.

THIS IS JUST AN IDEA: the download is just the first screenshot.

There is a chance that this might become a reality. A source forge project has been started by hyrcan at http://sourceforge.net/projects/slicker

If you know any developers that could help please get them to go there and get involved.

I am working on an interactive flash version of the idea so you can play about with how it works. WARNING, it will be quite a rough impression of the hopefully finished thing works.




Changelog:

I have been listening...

1) I have removed the taskbar card and replaced it with transparent taskbar at the top of the screen

2) I have moved the kmenu button underneath the quick launch buttons on the main menu card (which is all in one by the way, just twice the height of the others), so now the kmenu is in the bottom left hand corner, just where it should be

3) I renamed the taskbar card 'Mail Center' but that really means nothing I just wanted a quick title for it.




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 sticky cards :)

 
 by mendred on: Nov 24 2002
 
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Let the close button will appear soemwhere in the left corner where the K button is.

Have an option of a sticky card, If the sticky option is removed, the card disappears when the mouse is moved off (kind of like the taskbar thingummy in windows) that way everybody is happy.

Just a suggestion make the K bigger definitely like a logo kind of thing (on two rows) and let the quick launch items appear in two rows. This will distinguish this as a special K card.

Now if the cards can be translucent when not selected this would make them convinient to stay on top sort of thing, even if u are running a window fullscreen. Or u can have a special card key to make them appear even when ur running a window fullscreen.

These are just suggestions. I spent sometime trying to visualise the practical implications of using cards and his is what i came up with. Hope these are useful.


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 holy #@*$

 
 by lordion on: Nov 25 2002
 
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Wow. That's about it. Wow. Amazing.
I've been desperate for a dreamer to
give us a new metaphor for guis.
hate desks.Let us know when the
sourceforce dillyo is up. I will
debug, alpha/beta/gamma test this.
I might learn C++/qt just to help.


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 I'll do whatever...

 
 by liquidrock222 on: Dec 8 2002
 
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...the hell you guys need me to do. I 'm sort of good at debuggind code that i didn't write and don't know shit about :-P. I don't do c++ but i could learn, and of course i too will "alpha/beta/gamma test", as well as delta test :-D. Let me know what I can do


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 I like the text

 
 by aliceoutchains on: Nov 27 2002
 
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I like the text labels above the icons. It would be cool if they placed text labels underneath the icons in kicker.


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 Not dock but deck!

 
 by leinir on: Nov 27 2002
 
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leinirleinir
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This is, as many have pointed out, possibly the best idea to be released since sliced bread. Now, as soon as I am done writing this message, I will be clicking on "good" and then be off to join the project.
One thing that hit me is the name. Slicker is an adjective and this, being a thing, ought to really be named a noun. Thinking so, I thought that the 'Dock' first envisioned for the NeXTStep OS was equally new, and so it would seem like a good idea to name this equally simple and simply call it the 'Deck'. Any comments, people?
Also, re the taskbar. People have pointed out that many people use the Mac style menus in KDE. This is very true, and a simple solution to the problem of the taskbar being in the same place would seem to be to simply move it to the other side of the screen.
Also, to make everything easier for developers and their likes, to make the system plugin based (completely) would seem the simplest way of working it. This way, very small groups of developers could work on each card. Extreme Programming could thus be implemented and we could get us some results with a speed like nothing else... Thoughts?
In case you now thing "Hey, this guy is talking out his *rse" I am very sorry. I am very enthusiastic about the project and am simply hoping to be able to contribute to it the best I can.


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 thanks

 
 by fop on: Nov 27 2002
 
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I had no idea this would possibly become real. I think it would be worthwhile coming up with ideas for cards.

I personally would like a cross program palette so I can create a range of colours for a website or image and if I have to use 2 or 3 different progs to do it I don't have to put in all the colours again.

The bloke that has set up the source forge project must be in a different time zone to me, he is going to make me a co-admin so I can upload some doc/ideas and stuff.

I like your idea of different groups coming up with their own cards, nice.
and there is another idea for thumnalizing (and ripping off other peoples ideas) here:http://www.kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=4138 so no real need for a taskbar


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 Taskbar

 
 by leinir on: Nov 27 2002
 
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As for the taskbar, it would be (fairly) simple to make use of the thumbnails as icons for the taskbar as well. Possibly it would be an idea to make the icons bigger when the mouse is over it, possibly... But that's for the people that make the taskbar card to decide on, really ;)


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 X program pallette?

 
 by leinir on: Nov 27 2002
 
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What exactly do you mean with that... I don't quite follow there :) Though the ease of use is something we of course have to stride after ;)


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 well....

 
 by fop on: Nov 28 2002
 
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being a designer, I use quite a lot of different graphics/layout programs. For each project I have I usually have to come up with a range of colours which I have to set up in each program I use.

the idea of a separate pallette card would be that I would have an independant set of colours that I could drag or paste into any program.

other ideas are:

library card - bookmarks, man pages, help files, etc to help beginners
project manager card - easy access to project files


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 Aah, I follow now :)

 
 by leinir on: Nov 28 2002
 
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Right, now I get it, I thought you were talking about while designing the cards themselves or somesuch. Yes, a palette card would most definately be a good idea, as would all the other ideas you put up there. This is of course one of the main things about your idea being plugin-based, if you want something there, a plugin can be made to make it possible. Like, say, a palette (though this would require programmers to support that particular card, if not the card could copy the colour code (html/rgb/whatever) to the clipboard, to enable pasting it into the program you happen to be using at any one time) :)


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 wow...

 
 by gnemmi on: Nov 27 2002
 
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as simple as that...

this is the best idea i've seen in a long time, hope you can make it come true !

sorry to say that i can not help coding because i'm neither a programmer nor a designer nor anything related to computer sciences, fact is that I'm a lawyer :(

but rest assured that i will provide as much beta testing as possible and will try to contribute with as much ideas as i have available, as well as with the kind of critiscism needed to improve things as much as possible :)

thanks for your effort !


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 One suggestion

 
 by salgiza on: Nov 27 2002
 
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First, I think this is the best idea I've seen so far for improving KDE and I really hope someone implements it.
Now, for the suggestion, I think the K menu is still too small, and the quick launch bar on top of it, althought a nice idea, is too small to be really usable (I see many users clicking on the wrong icon). I think you should just make the K menu card twice as big, as it is, but remove the quick launch bar. You have a terminal and home icons next to the clock, the user should be able to choose what icons go there, thus becoming that part something similar to the "quick launch bar". Also, this way the K menu is much bigger. Remember, from a usability point of view, the bigger is usually the better, and in this case I think so.

Salva.


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