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3.5.x Xinerama improvements

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KDE Improvement

Score 76%
Link:  Link
Minimum required   KDE 3.5.x
Downloads:  1352
Submitted:  Jun 9 2006
Updated:  May 14 2007

Description:

Patches for KDE/Qt with several Xinerama improvements:

- Alt+tab list of windows can be restriced to a single screen (#86865)
- shortcut for moving the active window to a specific/other Xinerama screen (#80755)
- possibility of configuring on which Xinerama screen new windows will be placed (#56827)
- slightly improved dialog placement in some cases
- newly launched applications appear on the same Xinerama screen where minicli was shown
- possibility of configuring the active Xinerama screen to be the one with the active window instead of the one with the cursor
- shortcut for activating specific/other Xinerama screen

See http://home.kde.org/~seli/xinerama for details.

Lubos Lunak




Changelog:

- Fixed wrong handling of SeparateScreenFocus option



License:
The same as patched files.


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 THX

 
 by seraphyn on: Jun 11 2006
 
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Thank You, Good Idea

Chris


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 why don't you...

 
 by blaster999 on: Jun 11 2006
 
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...open a bug report on http://bugs.kde.org and post a link here? I'd vote for it.


It is not the size of the hammer that counts. It's how you wield it.
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 Re: why don't you...

 
 by Seli on: Jun 12 2006
 
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Open a bugreport ... who? Me? I'm the KWin maintainer, I don't need that :). As said on the page, I'm more interested in testing and what people think about the patches.

Otherwise, indeed, you're right. Just posting something at kde-apps.org doesn't generally mean it'll make it in KDE.


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 Nice Ideas

 
 by halux on: Jun 11 2006
 
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You could add "screensaver" and "kde vnc client" support to the list. Having images on two screens is very ugly.

About you ideas: As long as current methods are not removed I would agree with it. I really love that windows open where the cursor is. Never have placement problems with kde apps. Only Java and gtk apps don't work with the cursor thing :(


Felix


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 Re: Nice Ideas

 
 by Seli on: Jun 12 2006
 
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I don't know what you mean by "screensaver" and "kde vnc client" support.

I can try to add some workaround to improve placement with Java/Gtk apps.


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 Separate desktops?

 
 by patson on: Jun 14 2006
 
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Here's an idea: start work on a patch for kwin that let's you have different virtual desktops on each xinerama screen (if preferred), or a patch that lets you send windows between X screens?


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 Re: Separate desktops?

 
 by Seli on: Jun 15 2006
 
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> different virtual desktops on each xinerama screen

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107302 - not exactly trivial to do (conceptually)

> send windows between X screens

Read the list of improvements again more carefully.


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 Re: Re: Separate desktops?

 
 by patson on: Jun 15 2006
 
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Yes, I understand that separate virtual desktops for different Xinerama screens is not something trivial to do. That is why I suggested working on it (as opposed to "just adding it as a feature..") - it will require significant rewrites of the way windows are handled internally.

Also, I've read the list of changes, and I'm not talking about moving windows between xinerama screens, but between X screens (diffrerent thing). I am not 100% sure, but I remember seeing somewhere that this was both possible and fairly trivial to accomplish, which would mean a simple patch to kwin would be all that is required...

In all fairness, I haven't tried your patches yet, but I doubt a Xinerama window placement patch has any effect on truely separate X screens (as they, by default, share nothing but input)...
I might be off, though.


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 Re: Re: Re: Separate desktops?

 
 by Seli on: Jun 15 2006
 
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I'm afraid you must have misread "fairly trivial" and "simple patch to kwin would be all that would be required". I'm quite sure it actually said "lots of tedious work" and "nobody really wants to do/use it anyway".

If you for some reason want to share X on different machines, try some of the external solutions like VNC or FreeNX. On local machine, just use Xinerama and forget separate X screens (unless they really suit you and you don't care about all the limitations). This is the KWin maintainer telling you that.


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 Re: Re: Separate desktops?

 
 by kjetil on: Oct 21 2006
 
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I submitted that bug, and I'm happy to see that there is Xinerama work here.

I understand my feature request is non-trivial, but it is the single most wanted feature for me right now. I'm reminded pretty much every day about how nice it would be to have. Thus, I'm also offering some money for it, not a lot though, since I do not have a lot.

I'm just wondering about the likelihood of this being implemented? What is involved? Would it require patching in X? In Xinerama? Would it have implications for code outside KDE? Massive rewrites of Kwin code?

I think it would be a real killer feature, something I could brag about to friends... And it does have 8th place one the Kwin wishlist now...

Cheers,

Kjetil


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 Sounds cool

 
 by bsander on: Jun 26 2006
 
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I'd love to try this if it came as a kubuntu package or at least a "normal" way to install it instead of having to recompile half of KDE.. It sounds very handy, any word on if this will make it in KDE 3.5.4 (if/whenever that will be)?


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 Re: Sounds cool

 
 by Seli on: Jun 27 2006
 
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Maybe some parts of it could make it into 3.5.4, I don't know. That's why it needs testing. As for Kubuntu packages I'm afraid I can't help you there.


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 Compile problem..

 
 by bsander on: Jun 28 2006
 
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Okay so I decided to give it a try and compile it myself. I'm having the following error on kdebase, maybe you can help me?

g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin -I.. -I/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/lib -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I. -I/usr/include/sasl -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -g -Wall -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -D_GNU_SOURCE -MT libkdeinit_kwin_la.all_cpp.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libkdeinit_kwin_la.all_cpp.Tpo -c libkdeinit_kwin_la.all_cpp.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libkdeinit_kwin_la.all_cpp.o
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/workspace.cpp: In member function 'void KWinInternal::Workspace::init()':
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/workspace.cpp:292: error: 'WM2FullPlacement' is not a member of 'NET'
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/manage.cpp: In member function 'bool KWinInternal::Client::manage(Window, bool)':
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/manage.cpp:208: error: 'class KStartupInfoData' has no member named 'xinerama'
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/manage.cpp:208: error: 'class KStartupInfoData' has no member named 'xinerama'
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/activation.cpp: In member function 'void KWinInternal::Client::startupIdChanged()':
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/activation.cpp:890: error: 'class KStartupInfoData' has no member named 'xinerama'
/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/./kwin/activation.cpp:891: error: 'class KStartupInfoData' has no member named 'xinerama'
make[4]: *** [libkdeinit_kwin_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kwin'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kwin'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/obj-i486-linux-gnu'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bsander/misc/src/kdebase-3.5.3/obj-i486-linux-gnu'
make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-build] Error 2


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 Re: Compile problem..

 
 by Seli on: Jun 29 2006
 
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You need to first compile kdelibs with the patches and then compile kdebase against that kdelibs version.


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