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Konqueror for a New Experience

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KDE4 Brainstorm

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Konqueror for a New Experience
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Downloads:  10400
Submitted:  Mar 13 2006
Updated:  Oct 16 2009

Description:

This is my idea of a new Konqueror in KDE4.

The desing is based in this mockup:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476
made by eriol:
http://www.kde-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=eriol

I have done an HTML&JavaScript preview of the mockup. You can see it by clicking in "Homepage" or "download" section.

The explanation of this mockup is in "download" section too.



TODO:

- Make a preview of a splitted window to see how it looks.
- Make a preview of the audio collection (like amaroK, should be the same).
- Show the files containing in the TAR file in the right "info" column instead of the big icon.


More ideas? changes? improvements?




Changelog:

VERSION 1.1:

- Added a "Clear location" and "Go" buttons in the location bar.
- The float menu is vertical instead of horizontal.
- The "Up" button appears in web browser mode too.
- The "Refresh" and "Stop" buttons are the same: when the page or document finishes loading the "Stop" button becomes into "Refresh" button (the same behaviour as Opera, that works perfectly).
- Added a "my Home" button in the specific bar in file browse mode.


VERSION 1.0:

- Initial release.




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 Hmmm...

 
 by hachaboob on: Mar 27 2006
 
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The right sidebar doesn't really work with that view mode. The only view mode that it really works well in is the column view ala Finder. In column view the information and action buttons are close to all files/folders that a user can choose at that particular folder depth (or directory depth if you want inconsistency :P).

Also the Menu button is pointless as it doesn't safe enough space with the menu hidden.

Slightly off topic: Can someone please make a mockup for KMplayer. It has the worst UI I have ever seen. KDE4 needs a polished looking media player. I love your work KMplayer devs though.


I know you are psychotic but please make an effort.
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 Re: Hmmm...

 
 by ibc on: Mar 27 2006
 
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Also the Menu button is pointless as it doesn't safe enough space with the menu hidden.

Note that you can choose to lock the menu for a classical style. Anyway is obvious that with the menu hidden it saves space and Konqueror looks smoother, don't you think? in fact, is it really so necessary a menu in a file manager or web browser?


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 Re: Re: Hmmm...

 
 by gollum on: Jun 17 2006
 
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I uterly agree with the menu button.
Moreover, with this design, you can switch with the usual menu top of the window as you like.

This is a realy nice mockup :-)


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 Wow

 
 by Linuster on: Mar 27 2006
 
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This nice of an interface would revolutionize file management in Linux. Although I don't really agree with the Web Search when in HTML mode. In the other two modes it is a text search, so it should be consistent. I never use the Google search box anyway... I prefer Konqueror's Web Shortcuts.


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 Re: Wow

 
 by ibc on: Mar 27 2006
 
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In the other two modes it is a text search, so it should be consistent. I never use the Google search box anyway... I prefer Konqueror's Web Shortcuts.

Me too, I don't use the search box, but many Web Shotcuts. But I meet many peole using the search box (remember that in Firefox is the only way), and it is easier for the begginer user.

Anyway, my idea is that all of this should be configurable by the user, as I mention in the Explanation Document.


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 Re: Re: Wow

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 30 2006
 
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I meet many peole using the search box (remember that in Firefox is the only way)
No, it isn't.
In Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 you can right-click any search field and choose "Add a Keyword for this Search...". This provides functionality roughly equivalent to KDE's Web Shortcuts.


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 Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 31 2006
 
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  • Make clicking the icon in the location bar toggle between clickable and editable state.
  • Hide Go when the folders in the location bar are in clickable state.
  • Remove my Home, since the user can use the clickable my home in the location bar
  • Change the "Click HERE to read the explanation of this mockup" to "Explanation of this mockup", the whole as a link.

By the way, I can't find the thread where the my Home button was suggested :( .


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 Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Make clicking the icon in the location bar toggle between clickable and editable state.

Yes, in fact I tried to do it in that way, but because problems with javasccript I left it (but of course the idea is exactly like the behaivour that you descrive).


Hide Go when the folders in the location bar are in clickable state.

Note: The "clickable state" is too editable. See this mockup:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35637


Remove my Home, since the user can use the clickable my home in the location bar

No, many users (like me) simply don't like using a left sidebar, but we need a quick acces to our home. The button "my Home" in the file manager specific bar is usable and there is not problem of space as you can see.


Change the "Click HERE to read the explanation of this mockup" to "Explanation of this mockup", the whole as a link.

Ok, I'll do it (I hope suggestions like this to be the most important ;) ).


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 Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Note: The "clickable state" is too editable. [...]
Then what are the little cyan triangles for? I mean, can they be deleted by backspace... and similar stuff?
many users don't like using a left sidebar
I'm not talking about the sidebar, I'm talking about the location bar. The blue "my home" in it is clickable, right?
There is not problem of space.
There is when the window is resized. Besides, cleaner is (almost) always better.


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 Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Then what are the little cyan triangles for? I mean, can they be deleted by backspace... and similar stuff?

Clicking the little triangles you see the others directories in that level.
Please, see this mockup:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35637


I'm not talking about the sidebar, I'm talking about the location bar.

But you can be in / or in smb:/ or fish:/, so then you cannot click access your home quickly.


The blue "my home" in it is clickable, right?

Yes.



There is not problem of space.
There is when the window is resized. Besides, cleaner is (almost) always better.


Note that in "file manager" mode there are just 3 or 4 buttons, less than in others kparts, so "my Home" button should be never a space problem.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Clicking the little triangles you see the others directories in that level.
Okay, what happens if I click somewhere in Various and press backspace 10 times?
Please, see this mockup:[...]
I saw it the first time you posted it, don't worry. But there slashes are used, and you use triangles. I still don't know if your triangles are equivalent to his clickable slashes.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Okay, what happens if I click somewhere in Various and press backspace 10 times?

Nothing special, the triangle is erased as any caracter.


But there slashes are used, and you use triangles. I still don't know if your triangles are equivalent to his clickable slashes.

Yes, they are the same. Maybe you propose to use slashes instead of triangles?


Thanks a lot for your comments.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 3 2006
 
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Nothing special, the triangle is erased as any caracter.
Then what's the point of having a "non-clickable" mode?
Maybe you propose to use slashes instead of triangles?
Depends on your answer to the above question.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Apr 3 2006
 
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I reply you here because can't continue the thread.

Then what's the point of having a "non-clickable" mode?

Good question. I suppose that there are many people who prefer the classic style of the URL with no special features.
In fact note the the "clickable mode" should exist just in "file manager mode", I wont like to see clickable slashs or triangles in a WWW url.



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 Non-clickable mode

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 6 2006
 
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I think that in file management mode only the "clickable" (default in the mockup) Location Bar should exist. Does anyone disagree with this?


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 Re: Non-clickable mode

 
 by ibc on: Apr 6 2006
 
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Why not do it choosable by the user in the configuration of Konqueror?

Then the only we'll must choose is which mode will be the default one.


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 Re: Re: Non-clickable mode

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 6 2006
 
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Why not do it choosable by the user in the configuration of Konqueror?
Because it's possible that (nearly) nobody wants the old Location Bar. Therefore user feedback is needed. KDE 4 alphas could have features such as the clickable Location Bar turned on by default, which definitely would get heaps of feedback. However, to make it into KDE 4 alphas, the feature must survive the first flamewave, i.e. this thread.


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 New address

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 6 2006
 
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I have redirected those:
http://konqueror4.linuxdevel.net
http://konqueror4-explain.linuxdevel.net
to your pages. I think that they are better, because they:
  1. don't have popup ads
  2. have more descriptive names
I hope that you will change the links to these.


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 Re: New address

 
 by ibc on: Apr 6 2006
 
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Yes, it's very good idea. I will changes the links. Thanks a lot!!!


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 Re: Re: New address

 
 by logixoul on: Apr 6 2006
 
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I'm glad I could help you.


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 Suggestion

 
 by jmfayard on: Jun 25 2006
 
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One thing strongly missing in the tabs-oriented browsers like Mozilla Firefox is a popup showing the a list of open tabs, which make choosing the right one a nightmare when you have many of them opened.

If that's not clear, see this picture illustrating a real-world situation :
https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=15320&action=view

So I suggest to hadd near the "new tab" button what the "Too many tabs" firefox extension do
http://jomel.me.uk/software/firefox/toomanytabs/


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