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Konqueror for a New Experience

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KDE4 Brainstorm

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Konqueror for a New Experience
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Link:  Link
Downloads:  10400
Submitted:  Mar 13 2006
Updated:  Oct 16 2009

Description:

This is my idea of a new Konqueror in KDE4.

The desing is based in this mockup:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476
made by eriol:
http://www.kde-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=eriol

I have done an HTML&JavaScript preview of the mockup. You can see it by clicking in "Homepage" or "download" section.

The explanation of this mockup is in "download" section too.



TODO:

- Make a preview of a splitted window to see how it looks.
- Make a preview of the audio collection (like amaroK, should be the same).
- Show the files containing in the TAR file in the right "info" column instead of the big icon.


More ideas? changes? improvements?




Changelog:

VERSION 1.1:

- Added a "Clear location" and "Go" buttons in the location bar.
- The float menu is vertical instead of horizontal.
- The "Up" button appears in web browser mode too.
- The "Refresh" and "Stop" buttons are the same: when the page or document finishes loading the "Stop" button becomes into "Refresh" button (the same behaviour as Opera, that works perfectly).
- Added a "my Home" button in the specific bar in file browse mode.


VERSION 1.0:

- Initial release.




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 Amazing preview

 
 by Pierrot on: Mar 13 2006
 
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That was exactly how I imagine Konqueror in the future release of KDE.

Keep up this great work, congratz !


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 Wow !

 
 by LightBeam on: Mar 13 2006
 
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Really nice interface :-)
Hope this will be the one for kde 4.0.


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 Very nice

 
 by Khan on: Mar 13 2006
 
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This is one of the best presentations for an idea I've ever seen. Excellent coding and the layout/ideas for Konq are very well thought out. Keep up the great work.


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 Re: Very nice

 
 by labba on: Mar 13 2006
 
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I can only agree with the others here: This is definitley THE best looking Konqeuror. I hope that konqueror 4 will look like this. Keep up the good work and submit this to the KDE dev's :)


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 Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 13 2006
 
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  • Add "Go" button at the right of URL bar when in Web Browser mode
  • Move the whole first row (Back, Forward, etc.) inside the tab widget, because each tab logically has its own.
  • Make the menu that appears when clicking "menu" vertical, because of Fett.
  • Don't colorcode the left tabs.
  • Workplaces shouldn't be part of Konqueror's UI - it's something separate. Or?
  • The menu-button thing should be KDE-global, not Konqueror-specific.

I voted Good - and not just because of the method you used to present your ideas.
Also in relation to workspaces see:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34644


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 Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Mar 13 2006
 
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  • Add "Go" button at the right of URL bar when in Web Browser mode

  • Maybe, but why just in web browser mode? is that button really useful? who uses it? is it not enough to press "Enter" in the keyboard?
    Anyway it could be possible, of course.


  • Move the whole first row (Back, Forward, etc.) inside the tab widget, because each tab logically has its own.

  • Hummm, I don't think so, the navigation bar must be out of the specific. For example:
    I open a PDF and then write "google.com" in the navigation bar. If I press "Back" I expect to find the PDF again.


  • Make the menu that appears when clicking "menu" vertical, because of Fett.

  • Yes, maybe better. I'll modify it soon (I hope). I did it horizontally to look similar to the typical looked menu but it could be more usable in a vertical way.


  • Don't colorcode the left tabs.

  • I'm not a graphic designer, in the mockup the most important is the behaivor of it, and not the design. Of course, the kde artists could choose the best colors for any mockup.


  • Workplaces shouldn't be part of Konqueror's UI - it's something separate. Or?

  • But anyway in Konqueror should be a faster access to the "Documents" and "Bookmarks" of each "Workplace". Maybe the rest of the parts (mail, contacts...) could be in another place out of Konqueror, yes.


  • The menu-button thing should be KDE-global, not Konqueror-specific.

  • Of course, in the explanation I say that some of KDE apps could show it looked or unlooked depending on the need to access the menu.


    Thanks for your suggestions.


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 Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 14 2006
 
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Why just in web browser mode?
Because in file managing mode the location bar works with clicking and not typing.
Is that button really useful?
Yes, for novice users.
Who uses it?
Novice users.
Is it not enough to press "Enter" in the keyboard?
It is, but it's not easily discoverable.
I open a PDF and then write "google.com" in the navigation bar. If I press "Back" I expect to find the PDF again.
This doesn't conflict with my suggestion. There simply should be two separate rows of tools, the specific right below the general.
I'm not a graphic designer
Doesn't matter.
In the mockup the most important is the behavior of it, and not the design.
Of course.
Of course, the kde artists could choose the best colors for any mockup.
That is indeed true, but you misunderstood me. What I meant was that in the mockup the hover color of every one of the left tabs is different, which is unnecessary.
But anyway in Konqueror should be a faster access to the "Documents" and "Bookmarks" of each "Workplace". Maybe the rest of the parts (mail, contacts...) could be in another place out of Konqueror, yes.
I agree.
Of course, in the explanation I say that some of KDE apps could show it looked or unlooked depending on the need to access the menu.
Sorry, I didn't notice this note at first.


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 Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Mar 14 2006
 
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Ok, in my case I have never used the "Go" button and when I see my friends using aweb browser they don't use it, but anyway you could be right, so I'll add the "go" button in a future release.

I open a PDF and then write "google.com" in the navigation bar. If I press "Back" I expect to find the PDF again.
This doesn't conflict with my suggestion. There simply should be two separate rows of tools, the specific right below the general.

Yes, that is exactly what I think, but the navigations buttons are concerned to the general row of tools, and not to the specific one.


Of course, the kde artists could choose the best colors for any mockup.
That is indeed true, but you misunderstood me. What I meant was that in the mockup the hover color of every one of the left tabs is different, which is unnecessary.

Of course it's unnecesary, but I think this is the less important thing. I simply used different colors to try them. ;)


Thanks again for your suggestions.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 15 2006
 
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I have never used the "Go" button
Neither have I ;) .
When I see my friends using a web browser they don't use it.
Neither do mine, but I haven't watched any person's first introduction to the Web except my father's. But then it was me who told him about the Enter feature. We shouldn't rely on that in KDE.
Yes, that is exactly what I think, but the navigations buttons are concerned to the general row of tools, and not to the specific one.
To save time, just see this quick&dirty mockup:
http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logixoulmockup4lm.png
So how's that look?
Of course it's unnecessary, but I think this is the less important thing. I simply used different colors to try them.
To avoid confusion, I suggest that you make them have the same color on hover - otherwise somebody may come to think that you actually propose the real Konqueror to look like that.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 30 2006
 
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The new version came along, so here I am again.

  • Why did you add Go when in File Browsing mode?

  • What does the little arrow in Go do?

  • Why did you add the my Home button?

  • Will you remove the colorcoding from the left tabs?

  • Will you rearrange the interface as in the mockup I posted?


Sorry if I'm obtrusive, I just want to help.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Mar 30 2006
 
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Why did you add Go when in File Browsing mode?

Why not? imagin you are browsing your home, but now you want to browse the web, so you enter the URL and press "Go", isn't it?


What does the little arrow in Go do?

It show the recents URL list, like any browser or fiel manager ;)


Why did you add the my Home button?

It's explained in other thread in this mockup, if you can read it.
Basically, it's because many people don't like the left sidebar, but they need a easy and fast wy to access their home, don't you think?


Will you remove the colorcoding from the left tabs?

Yes ;), I'l do it, be patient :)


Will you rearrange the interface as in the mockup I posted?

It's interesting, but I prefer to dedicate some time thinking about it. Anyway I'd like more people to opinate about your idea.


Thanks for all!



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by ibc on: Mar 30 2006
 
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Ey! I didn't see your modification:
http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logixoulmockup4lm.png

Could be interesting, I'll think about it!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions

 
 by logixoul on: Mar 31 2006
 
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Thanks.
Since apparently KDE-Look doesn't allow any more levels of comment nesting, I'm posting a new top-level comment.



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 That is great

 
 by linuksamiko on: Mar 13 2006
 
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That would be an awesome Konqueror. One of the best features is, that the images on the top left change when ever you are in "Browser Mode" or "Folder Mode".
For everyone who doesn't like special features like "places" or "info" they can hide them (and the menu too, which is very cool).
Just great! keep it up


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 Great!

 
 by UpsilonH24 on: Mar 13 2006
 
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I have to thank you for taking the time to do this. It really helps people to understand what Konqueror should be in KDE 4. Additionaly, I'd like to give a few ideas.

TO HELP LINUX NOOBS:

Being a linux noob myself, I think I can introduce at least two things I'd like to see in KDE 4.

- User rights should be displayed in a more readable fashion for beginners. I was quite afraid, as a noob, to see --r-rw--rwec... or whatever...

- Usefull commentaries about linux folders... For example, if the noob hovered the folder /home/, a descriptive message could pop up, saying :"This is where user files are stored" A better example for this would be folders such as /etc/. I still have no idea what it's for. That I would appreciate.

Thanks.


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 Re: Great!

 
 by loggeman on: Mar 13 2006
 
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> ... /etc/. I still have no idea what it's for.

As an answer: /etc is system-folder where alot or allmost all of the systems configuration files has their home. You do not want to mess with this folder until You have learned what it is for.

Example: /etc/apache2 contains files vital for the functionality of the webserver apache.

So... In other words, /etc is one of the most vital folders in Your entire system.

// Logge


I never stop to amaze about the advanced features in the human bodys's simplicity.
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 Re: Great!

 
 by ibc on: Apr 3 2006
 
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I think the permissions in Unix/Linux are difficult to understand for commons users, who don't need to know about them.
In fact I think the permissions should be hiden to common users because the most they use is their own documents in their home. Maybe they want access to others user home in the system, but the know that only could read but not delete.


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