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GTK-QT Mandrake 10.1 RPM

   0.6  

Theme/Style GTK 1.x

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GTK-QT Mandrake 10.1 RPM
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Minimum required   KDE 3.2.x
Downloads:  6525
Submitted:  Jun 18 2004
Updated:  Dec 24 2004

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The GTK-QT Theme Engine was created by davidsansome:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714

Please direct any questions, bug reports or requests to the original author.

Note: Please make a backup copy of your $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 file in order to be able to reverse to your previous gtk2 settings if this theme engine is causing any issues on your machine.




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 Suspicious

 
 by greatscot on: Jun 23 2004
 
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I want to know how the author got this engine to work on a Mandrake 10.0 system.
The author himself said (in a previous comment) that this engine won't work on a Mandrake 10.0 system. If it won't work on a Mandrake 10.0 system, why create an RPM for that specific system.
Also, the author suggested uninstalling/disabling magicdev to get this engine to work. I did some investigating and found that magicdev, at least on my Mandrake 10.0 system, is used for letting the machine know whether or not there is a CD in the CD tray and doesn't have anything to do with gtk apps at all.
It is a good thing that I never uninstall/disable anything without investigating it first, otherwise, the author's bad advice would have disabled my ability to use CD's on my computer.

Why create an RPM of an app for a specific system when that app won't run on that system?
Why tell someone to disable their ability to use CD's on their system to try and get them to use your app?
What does your app really do?


Ph.D., MS, BS, Registered Linux User.
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 Re: Suspicious

 
 by ntesa on: Jun 24 2004
 
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I'm gonna try to answer your last posts on a technical level and try to ignore your other comments. If you run ldd on magicdev, you're gonna get this output:

$ ldd /usr/bin/magicdev | grep gtk
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

So magicdev is a gtk2 app, and as a consequence of using the gtk2 library it will use the current gtk2 theme, in this case the gtk-qt engine. From the magicdev rpm, this is the description:

"Magicdev is a daemon that detects when a CD is removed or inserted. Magicdev handles running autorun programs on the CD, updating the File Manager, and playing audio CDs."

So, unless your machine is not configured to run supermount, magicdev is pretty much useless in kde, unless you want autorun for your CDs. As far as I know supermount is configured by default on Mandrake. There has been a discussion about magicdev and supermount on the gtk-qt page, as I mentioned before, but I'll post the link again for your convenience:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714

It's your choice if you wanna continue to use magicdev or this theme. But disabling magicdev will not prevent you from using your CD, at least not as long as you have supermount enabled.

This theme engine does work on Mandrake 10. To answer your questions, I got it to work on Mandrake 10 just by compiling and installing it, and I made an rpm based on users' requests on the gtk-qt page. I never said that it doesn't work on Mandrake 10, I said that KDE will fail to load completely if magicdev is running when using this theme engine, because magicdev starts before KDE ends loading. Maybe there are better solutions, like finding the script which starts magicdev and moving it to the end of the script to start it later, or adding it to KDE's autostart folder instead of just disabling or removing it completelly.

I'm sorry if I'd given you bad advice, but I can assure you that it wasn't malicious or with bad intentions, I was just trying to help.

And finally, as much as I'd like to take credit for this app (or theme engine), it isn't mine, it's been developed by davidsansome.


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 BEWARE!

 
 by greatscot on: Jun 23 2004
 
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Can you see where is says "Please remove or disable magicdev before using this theme engine..." up there in the description area for this engine? Well, on my Mandrake 10.0 system, magicdev is used to enable the computer to read CD's. Magicdev has nothing at all to do with gtk apps or "theming". I am assuming that this is true for all Mandrake 10.0 systems.

This seems to be malicious advice by the author.
This engine does not work on Mandrake 10.0 systems.


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 nice work!

 
 by bvc on: Jun 27 2004
 
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Seriously it is. Why not a gtk2 theme? GTK2 works from kde, so just use gtk2 apps. Why not let the old dog (gtk1.2) die? There's only a few gtk1.2 only apps left anyway that are worth while, and they have gtk2 replacements.

MagicDev is a gnome2/gtk2 app.
http://rpmfind.rediris.es//rpm2html/mandrakelinux-official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/magicdev-1.1.5-6mdk.i586.html
do your research!

Supermount works just fine in ML-10-CE and OE.

bvc


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 Re: nice work!

 
 by ntesa on: Jul 2 2004
 
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Thanks :) This is a gtk2 theme, if that's what you're asking, it's just posted under gtk 1.x styles on kdelook because there's no gtk2 section yet. This theme engine doesn't work with gtk1 apps and there's nothing like this available for it as far as I know, but it shouldn't really matter too much, like you said, because most apps are already ported to gtk2 or they will/should be ported in the near future.


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 Be careful

 
 by ilDominante on: Jul 6 2004
 
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I don't want to condemn the rpm, even though it did not work at all on my MDK 10 Official (with all the updates), but I strongly suggest that if you don't know what you are doing nor how to uninstall an rpm from a command line (which you might be forced to do after kde crashes) then you shouldn't install this rpm. All in all it's a good idea but it's not perfect yet. I'd wait a little longer beefore posting a mdk rpm.

Cheerio


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 Dangerous rpm

 
 by ilDominante on: Jul 6 2004
 
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Ok your rpm screwed up any gtk2 based app in my main user account. In root and other accounts everything works fine but in my main user account this rpm did something which was not reversed when I uninstalled it.

I first installed the rpm.

Restarted kde

Went to mdk control center and changed the preference of the gtk-qt engine to "resemble my kde theme" (or something to that effect)

Started the gimp2 and I saw that it didn't work.

I restarted kde but kde crashed.

I uninstalled your rpm package (from bash) and restarted kde.

This time kde started fine but all the gtk2 based apps don't work. I get just a white window. As I said this does not happen in other user accounts so evidently my setting change in the gtk-qt engine section of mdk-control center remained even though your rpm is uninstalled.

What (kde preference/setting or other) file does that preference setting (in the gtk-qt) affect and how do I revert it back to its normal value?

Please respond to this question it is important that I get back my configuration as it was.

Thanks


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 Re: Dangerous rpm

 
 by ntesa on: Jul 7 2004
 
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To fix your gtk2 apps change the include line in your $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 file to point to another gtk2 theme. It should look like this:

include "/usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"

You can change it to:

include "/usr/share/themes/Galaxy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"

if you want to revert to the Mandrake default gtk2 theme (Galaxy). Or you could just copy the .gtkrc-2.0 file from your root account to your home directory. I'm guessing that the gtk2 apps don't work in your account anymore because you've probably uninstalled the rpm but your .gtkrc-2.0 file still points to the gtk-qt theme, which doesn't exist anymore. So, just uninstalling the rpm without changing the gtk2 theme in that file will not revert your system to the previous state. The theme can also be changed with the KControl module in this rpm before uninstalling it.

Did your KDE crash or did it just stop loading? That's a known issue with Mandrake, and it happens because of magicdev, it's been discussed previously here. I've sent a bug report to the gtk-qt developer (davidsansome) about magicdev and he's gonna try to fix it. It'd help if you's send him a bug report too if you experienced crashes, with as much detail as possible, mostly what KDE theme you were using, there might be some issues with some KDE themes. You could also give it a try with another KDE theme and see if it works, that way we'd know that gtk-qt doesn't work with your KDE theme and we could report it as an issue with that theme to get it fixed.

I've posted the rpm because some people requested it and the issues are not related to the rpm itself but to the gtk-qt engine. The next versions will probably have most of the bugs worked out, and it'd help if most people that experience problems send bug reports to the developer.

Hope this helps, and please provide more information about your issues if you can, hopefully most of them will be fixed soon.

Thanks :)


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 Bad package

 
 by h1k3r on: Jul 13 2004
 
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This app is just plain garbage and will damage your system, it damaged mine. Beware, using this app will cause you no end of problems which will not be reversed after you uninstall the app.


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 Re: Bad package

 
 by ntesa on: Jul 30 2004
 
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I thought I've provided very clear instructions on how to revert your gtk settings, and warned users to save them just in case they want to revert. Please let me know if I haven't been clear enough. As the original author pointed out, this is a 0.x release, so don't expect it to be perfect. It'd help a lot if people like you that have issues with it would send bug reports to the developers to help fix the bugs, instead of just bitching.


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