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screensaver import in kde4 [idea]

  

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screensaver import in kde4 [idea]
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Submitted:  Dec 7 2008
Updated:  Dec 8 2008

Description:

The idea is that when you download a screensaver of for example of your favorite serie, that you can import it and use it on your kde4 desktop.

The idea to support Windows and Mac osx formats comes from the lack of Linux screensavers, some other idea would be making a converting tool.

I hope some one would like to work this out.

What i yesterday discover was that in the SWF file was the screensaver, so that means it SHOULD be possible to convert or use.




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DaSkreech told me, that it first needed implement it in xscreensaver, because kscreensaver is just wrapper around xscreensaver.

I have discover that some screensavers use swf files, and that if you can come to the file then you can most likely convert it to a other format.



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Rights of the screensavers file from Dexter are from showview.

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 Good idea... but...

 
 by menace1982 on: Dec 7 2008
 
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That's a good idea, but it's impossible to convert a windows or a macosx screensaver. It's impossible because screensavers are normal executable programs. There is another way, of course : run screensavers through wine or LUK.


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 idea

 
 by Kenichi on: Dec 7 2008
 
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I don't know if its impossible, but what i know is that there isn't a import option like i did draw on screenshot.

On thing i know, kde did with plasmoids the same, you can import some OSX widgets.


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 Hardly comparable...

 
 by thomas12777 on: Dec 8 2008
 
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Dashboard widgets are made up from (java) script, html and css. The core task here is to support the script api to the system.
Windows/Mac screensavers are usually binary apps (like a game, gpu demo, whatever) that are just suffixes .scr (on win) and provide some functions to be handled from the session manager and call him as well - that's incomparable.

If anywhere this could be done by wine, but screensavers often contain weired code, completely uncommon functionality and deep system integration...

If you find a screensaver that's just a mediaplayer/media combination (e.g. many photoshows) you can try to break the format, extract the media and play it yourself (the simple task ;-)

But unfortunately there won't be a common approach even on this as well.

Solution: if you want a certain screensaver (i prefer to take my monitor down...) you'll have to
a) ask the author to port it
b) clone it
c) find so. to clone it for you ;-)

(several screensaver hacks from xscreensaver are clones themselves)


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 Re: Hardly comparable...

 
 by bizzl on: Dec 8 2008
 
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The screensavers on Windows are actually plain normal apps that are just handled specially by the window manager (at least 'til WinXP) and work fine with wine (just tested).
The only thing special are the command line parameters they use:
/c to show config
/s to start
That could easily be used by kscreensaversettings ;)


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 Re: Re: Hardly comparable...

 
 by thomas12777 on: Dec 9 2008
 
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(unfortunately only a) /part/ of them
(though i couldn't say a percentage - but far more than games or plain apps i tried)
(as with all wine apps) you may be lucky running a screensaver - you may be not (i wasn't in many cases as at least, they're no simple com/mfc apps)

one could of course make them run via wine and wrap the output to root, but it will lead to maaany bug reports like "homebrew screensvaer xyz" does not work and wine + fullscreen apps + joe user = reset button ;-)

i'd rather start a forum on this - if i was interested, as you should have more knowledge about internal things in general when trying to do this, and assume for most users cost will be >> gain, but that's just my 2¢


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 Re: Re: Re: Hardly comparable...

 
 by bizzl on: Dec 9 2008
 
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I've made other experiences with the capabilities of wine regarding screensavers, but I also made other experiences regarding GStreamer and Xine then most of my friends. Maybe my box is weird

> one could of course make them run via
> wine and wrap the output to root, but
> it will lead to maaany bug reports
> like "homebrew screensvaer xyz" does
> not work
Okay, I can't deny this will be a problem...

> and wine + fullscreen apps +
> joe user = reset button ;-)
Dunno, most behaved on mouse movement well and as suspected. If "joe" still would hit the reset button then he should consider not to use computers ;)


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 wine

 
 by Kenichi on: Dec 8 2008
 
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So how would that work for a normal user?


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 Even with WINE

 
 by AngelBlue01 on: Mar 4 2009
 
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Even if it does depend on WINE, this would be a handy feature.


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