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additional window type


KDE4 Brainstorm

Score 75%
additional window type

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Downloads:  258
Submitted:  Feb 17 2006
Updated:  Feb 20 2006


The idea first came when I discovered the "universal sidebar", which might be universal but not too useful actually (at least to me); the thing what I like about it though is its visual behaviour, i.e. that it disappears automatically and doesn't grab focus.
I actually could imagine that some apps might be better hosted in a window with the sidebar's behaviour.

What I'm talking about? Well, basically think of some of the apps in the system tray, like telephony, volume control, amarok, wireless monitor and the like, but also a search engine, a dictionary, a calculator the calendar or even some of those nifty karamba themes and last but not least some menu (kbfx, kmenu ...). Let's call them second order applications, not the real workhorses.

So what I'd like to come along with that window type I'm talkin about is the following:
a) background loading, just like system tray apps do right now (or YaKuake); a symbol could/should also be placed somewhere (in a "window pool"?)
aa) the window itself might have an "autostart" option
b) activation/deactivation by shortcut, mouse gesture, mouse position or timeout (configurable for each window through something like the "window-specific settings")
bb) context sensitive activation through popups (that's nothing to do with the window itself, but it's still a way of activation)
c) don't steal focus on activation and always stay on top (look at yakuake, i like that)
d) maybe association with the currently active main application (I haven't thought that through really, but it sounds nice ;-)
e) a possibility to configure a different style for this window class to improve distinction against main windows
f) different animation for classical windows and this type (it could be sliding in like a drawer, whilst main windows fade in or whatsoever) - of course configurable for each such window
g) the window might be anchored at desktop or main window edges
gg) it may also be configured to be placed at the actual mouse position
h) easy switching between the two window types
i) aggregation of apps (exactly what the universal sidebar does with its tabs; the sidebar actually isn't that bad ;-); actually, one might speak of a container rather than a window, but what's the difference anyway!?

This way I think my intrinsicly cluttered desktop could become a lot more organized, plus some moves on my touchpad could be abandoned, or at least I might not have to target as precisely anymore to hit those little window buttons and thus save lots n lots of time :-).

After all, I think my idea here might only represent a concentration of efforts seen in some state of the art programs like kicker, menus, sidebar, yakuake, knotes, alltray, etc., all with their own concepts/code but basically the same intention. I mean, isn't that exactly a place for a new abstraction?

Now, what do _you_ think?

PS: I know, I'm a master of jumble :-(, so be indulgent, please.

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 like yaKuake ?

 by DanaKil on: Feb 17 2006
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i like the yakuake behaviour and it could be indeed very cool to have the same behaviour for apps like Kopete

but how do you activate them ? a shortcut ? a tab on the screen's edge ?

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 Re: like yaKuake ?

 by scalpel on: Feb 17 2006
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... or a bit like yaKuake, yes.

shortcuts = keyboard shorcuts (nothing new in fact)

tab on the edge? ... why being so picky ;-), well, maybe that's not the best way of activation, right, especially when having more than 4 of those windows ...

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 Excellent Idea

 by loak on: Mar 4 2006
Score 50%

The idea to make a "sidebar" kind of enviroment for some apps is really good. I can clearly see it's future!!

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