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Virtual Filesystem

  

KDE Improvement

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Link:  http://
Downloads:  3180
Submitted:  Nov 13 2004

Description:

This is a proposal to address an issue that was discussed on the kfm-devel mailing list. The problem was that even some of the greatest KIO Slaves offered by KDE are quite unknown. Many users have no idea how to use them because it requires them to enter special URL's in the location bar, like fish:// audiocd:/ or man:/.

This proposal attempts to make these KIO slaves accessible by adding a special KIO Slave called the locations slave. This locations slave is accessible by typing 'locations:/' in the location bar. It offers access to some of the most important available KIO slaves and presents them in a well organized directory structure.

The screenshots show what it could look like to browse the locations slave. Note that the user's home directory is one of the available locations.

Ideally, the locations KIO slave should replace 'file:/home/user' as the default default location of Konqueror's file browsing profile. The home directory will be one click away, but so are many other powerful KIO slaves..

There is no code, it's just a proposal.




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 KDE Improvements

 
 by amantia on: Nov 14 2004
 
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Hi,

I appreciate your work (not only this, but also the others) and I hope you all know that this is not against this or other entry or the person who created it (Dik in this case). But there is one thing that makes me (and not only) think that there is some problem with this site. The problem is with the rating system and with categories. It's really strange that entries that are not code appear on the kde-apps.org and even stranger that an entry without code or which is basicly a set of patches reaches the top positions in the matter of days. I can understand that they are popular and they are good ideas, but they are not real applications and it just breaks the credibility of such "highest rated" list when you see that it's rated higher than big and highly appreciated applications like K3B, Krusader or Quanta. Yes, I'm biased, but I don't write this because Quanta falls down one place or two, as I know that the user base is stable and appreciates is, but because in the current case nobody can take such a list seriously. In some cases if the patches get integrated in the applications (or in the KDE base/libs), the entry will be outdated. If the ideas doesn't materialize, they get outdated. If they are and become patches or integrated in applications, they are outdated. But the rating remains and will just pollute the list. So my idea would be some kind of reforming of the top items:
- new entries get some kind of penalty regarding the rating
- old entries without downloads or new ratings will also get some penalty
- some categories should not appear there

Nobody has to follow my ideas, maybe I'm completely wrong, but whatever, I had to write down this. ;-)

Andras


Quanta+ developer
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 Re: KDE Improvements

 
 by vide on: Nov 15 2004
 
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Well, but there's no other site with such an exposure. KDE-apps is, as now, the best way to get opinions by real KDE users, not only by KDE power-users that read KDE wikis or follow some KDE-devel mailing list or regulary look at bugs.kde.org.
So, until things changed, it works this way. And anyway all these kinds of apps fall down "KDE improvement", which is a different catagory from Quanta one, even if Quanta IS a KDE improvement :)


"There is no stronger drug than reality"
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 Re: KDE Improvements

 
 by meneerdik on: Nov 15 2004
 
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Yes, you're right. The rating system is not really good. Though it's kind of funny to become the second most popular submit in history in a matter of days.. :D

I posted this thing exclusively on kde-look.org, because there's no code. Yet, it shows up at kde-apps.org. What's going on here??


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 Good good...

 
 by DarkLord on: Nov 14 2004
 
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Doesn't take a hall full of usability experts to see this is a good idea overall - something that the immensely powerfull yet mostly unknown KIO Slaves actually *need* in my opinion.

But just to point this out directly: Making "locations:/" default instead of home is a bad bad thing. "normal users" (those who would not and should not need to know how to change the default back to "file:/home/user") will have to (read: should) work inside their home directory 90% of the time they open their "File Manager".

That said there should be a easily viewable and accessible icon on the desktop saying something like "Locations" or "Start Here" (oh.. that's another DE ;)).


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 Re: Good good...

 
 by vide on: Nov 15 2004
 
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Well, let's talk about truly KDE beginners, I mean, truly *nix beginners. They don't have a clue of what exactly home is for. So a generical starting location could be easily this new locations:/, with another "My files" placed by default on the desktop (and/or in the kicker)


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 Re: Re: Good good...

 
 by DarkLord on: Jan 21 2005
 
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Ok, but those "true beginners" won't be just that forever - even the slowest learner around will eventually become a more andvanced user over time and such a change is just too unusefull for anyone with the slightest idea of what "home" actually might mean, and that this IS the place to be on your filesystem... and it's not that hard to guess if you ask me.

Seriously, home beeing the start point for... well, everything makes it even more understandable to new users.
What else? A big fat STORE YOUR STUFF HERE sticker? I don't think that's needed.

Moving away from that only stirrs confusion as to why people shouldn't have all their data messed around their whole FS.


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 Re: Good good...

 
 by vladc on: Jan 21 2005
 
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Might be worth taking a look at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94865 and
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94858

I agree, the default should open to the user's home directory, but at the same time the user should be able to discover the network protocols by having the abilty to add them to their tree-view.

Konqueror should be smart enough to include network protocols that are already in use (for example, Samba or NFS shares that are already mounted), and at the same time give the user the ability to add new protocols.


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 Re: Good good...

 
 by anonymous on: Jan 21 2005
 
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Might be worth taking a look at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94865 and
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94858

I agree, the default should open to the user's home directory, but at the same time the user should be able to discover the network protocols by having the abilty to add them to their tree-view.

Konqueror should be smart enough to include network protocols that are already in use (for example, Samba or NFS shares that are already mounted), and at the same time give the user the ability to add new protocols.


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 Already exists!

 
 by nunogomez on: Nov 15 2004
 
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Hi,

This already exists in Turkix, it's called kiostart.

You can have a look at it on http://www.turkix.org

You can reach its source codes from http://cvsweb.turkix.org


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 Already in kde.

 
 by oliverthered on: Nov 24 2004
 
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Ok, I know that support it's great but.

Turn on the side bar, select serives, find audiocd:// fonts:// print:// bluetooth://

reliesa will do fish:// smb:// telnet:// ssh:// and probably ftp and http


man:/ info:// etc.. are still missing, but help should be under help

zip:/ etc.. are already intergrated view the file browser.


The one missing link is, settings:/ which should be on the desktop.


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 confusig

 
 by jpcohen on: Dec 12 2004
 
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Hi, i think this will not be a help for newbies to understand *nix system architecture. The '/' should stay associated with the root system, nothing else imho.
For accesing kio slave there is the konqui side bar wich is there whan u need it... And it's looks too much like a ripp of microsoft windows "my computer" interface => i mean like a "toy interface". Well just my opinion ... But before anything is an idea...


Have a nice day.
j.p.

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