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Smart Folders

  

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Smart Folders
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Downloads:  425
Submitted:  Mar 22 2006

Description:

Hi,

I thought about this when editing my Smart Playlists in amaroK. Wouldn't it be handy to have same feature in Konqueror, with "Smart Folders"?

A smart folder should contain files matching certan criterias, e.g:
- All .cpp-files edited the last week.
- 50 "favorite" files.
- Logfiles > 100 MB.

Other than the content, they work as normal folders. You may edit the criterias as you wish.

Well, I googled for "smart folders", and it seems like Mac OS X already has this feature. (Maybe that's where I originally got the idea?). However, I've never used it. But it sounds pretty useful, so if anyone use latest (?) Mac OS X here, please tell us about your experience with smart folders.

Do you think it would be worth to implant such a feature in KDE? I read that the smart folders in Mac OS X work thanks to Spotlight; KDE has Tenor, right? Is Tenor able to do something similar?

Please discuss. I don't have any mockups, the download link takes you to the wikipedia article about smart folders.




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 may be

 
 by nardew on: Mar 22 2006
 
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i think its quite good idea, but it would have to be full full full configurable...

and how do you imagine implementing the feature like showing the last 50 cpp files? would be there only rules, where you could change only the parameters or would it be possible to write entire own rules?


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 Re: may be

 
 by Ekardnam on: Mar 22 2006
 
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If you have used the smart palylist in amaroK, you can maybe see how I think.

About the 50 last edited cpp-files:

Match following conditions:
[File extension = *.cpp (etc) ]

Order by:
[Last edited]

Limited to:
[50 files]

Well, something like this. I don't how it works under Mac OS X, maybe it's better?
I think it would be nice with a simple GUI where you can set the criterias etc, but advanced users should be able to make more advanced smart folders.
If this idea becomes popular, someone should maybe start making mockups of the option window?


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 Nothing new

 
 by dragospop on: Mar 22 2006
 
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It is a great ideea, but both OS-X and Vista has it, and there wore a lot of discutions about implementing it in KDE4, on the kde-artists.org dedicated forum.


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 Fuse?

 
 by anytimeIsLunchtime on: Mar 23 2006
 
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I think you can implement this easily with fuse (fuse.sourceforge.net).

Good luck.


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 Re: Fuse?

 
 by ssokolow on: Jun 2 2006
 
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Definitely what should be done. That would make it just as easy as doing it in KDE, but with system-wide support.


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 not kde's job

 
 by soulrebel on: Mar 23 2006
 
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filesystem abstraction should NOT be done by the dm/wm or any other gui for that matter!
i would really like to see these features but not as part of kde but as part of the filesystem itself or some lowlevel api. else you will confuse users, because the way kde looks at files is different from how the system views them.
also it will be a pain to get other applications to realize this.
just think about popping up a konsole in the "virtual directory for recent cpp files"; it wont be able to access it at all.
this is the same as using tools with absolutely useless kio-slaves like home:/ ... as if anyone was too dumb to enter /home/ and his name...


# cd /usa/whitehouse
# rm -rf *

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 Re: not kde's job

 
 by isma on: Mar 28 2006
 
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That could be easily achieved by making real folders with symlinks inside. That way every application would access the content of the Smart Folders. Of course, content should be updated when necessary (new files added, modified, rules changed, etc..)


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 Re: Re: not kde's job

 
 by soulrebel on: Mar 28 2006
 
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no it should be implemented by the filesystem directly!
what if define "contains all file < 1MB" and kde starts symlinking the whole disk around :S ?
you dont want that!


# cd /usa/whitehouse
# rm -rf *

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 Re: Re: Re: not kde'

 
 by alphi on: Dec 27 2006
 
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I agree, fuse is probably the way to go for smart folders. There is already a kioslaves->fuse gateway, but why write a kioslave when you could have a fuse implementation.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: not

 
 by alphi on: Dec 27 2006
 
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even though when you posted it probably didn't exist...


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 Re: not kde's job

 
 by Ekardnam on: Apr 1 2006
 
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Thanks for the comment. I don't know about filesystems, but what you said makes sense.
It is this way Mac OS X' spotlight/smart folders work, right?


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 Re: not kde's job

 
 by khaitu on: Apr 5 2006
 
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I see no reason why it shouldnt be a GUI feature. Yes- it will mean that only KDE apps will be able to access the smart folders, but its better than waiting around for someone to create a filesystem that can handle it for now.
And OS X doesn't have smart folders. Only Spotlight, which leaves a bit to be desired.


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 Re: not kde's job

 
 by Tortanick on: Dec 1 2006
 
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whats up with /home/yourname ?

just enter ~ into you're konquoror URL bar and you're home.

There's no place like ~

and I'd like to see this feature but I don't think it would work well as a virtual folder or kioslave.


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