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Simplest KDE4 (mockup)

  

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This is ideas (mockup) about how to make simplest KDE4. Because music files, contacts, mail in Linux can be presented as files lists, some aplications as mail clients, contacts, FTP, music players and others can be could be integrated into Konqueror. It would be better for beginers - learn one aplication (konqueror) more easy than a lot of aplications.

Another one ideas - using window backside for setings and properties :-)

I'm not programer, please make code if you like ideas or make better ideas if dislike (for this reasons I uploaded SVG files of mockup).




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 my thoughts

 
 by smileaf on: Sep 26 2005
 
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While my first look was quite well summed up as a previous post but could be quite well put simply as "what a mess"

I don't like the idea of a dual button system. it packs things too tight. while I won't argue that how you used some them makes sense. I will argue that this sort of system is very easily abused as how you did the Up and Bookmarks. The 2 share nothing in common and shouldn't be pack that closely together. Without a visual I'm not sure how this system would look if you broke away from the dual icon system into a single icon for ones that have no obvious partners.

email... in Konqueror? .. I don't think that is a good focus. I think we should just keep with the system we have now and let Konqueror keep striving for what it's designed to do.
This means that it shouldn't be a full image browser, a music player, nor a contact viewer, nor anything else that is appart from a web browser and a file browser.
Lets let the projects that specialize in these categories to keep doing what they do best.

I'm not quite sure about the image button overlay. it could have it's advantages but to me it makes things look far to cluttered. and could very easily be confusing.

Tasks in progress? ... umm... 1 word.. no .. again lets let Konqueror do what it does best.

the kicker idea... looks nice... but I would not like it at all. I for one normally have all my windows maximized and I want to be able to use that lower half of my screen that your idea would cover up. so .. Lets think of a better way to organize that? or some way that the window is still fully accessable and still can have that look. even tho I again think it's very clutter.

sql idea. I love sql, but I don't see how it could make searching more powerful or useful. when you search your searching for a pattern. if some one knows sql it's almost guarantee that they'll know how to make out a pattern. and if they don't know patterns it's almost a guarantee that they'll not know sql. so I fail to see the usefulness of this in a search.
now sql to store other things kde like configs might be interesting. but I think most would shoot this idea down as a registry idea. plus it'd be easy to do a whoops and delete things that don't belong to your application.

Ok finally backside configuration dialogs. I've actually pondered this idea after I saw the Sun demo of how they could flip windows around. thought wouldn't it be cool if they just made windows 3D like a cube and you could use all the sides for something. Then it occurred to me that I normally when configuring windows want to still see what I'm configuring. and in some cases want to still use that window and just alt+tab between config and window.
So it would be a very interesting idea very pretty.. but would it be usable? I personally think No.

Hopefully I made some points that you'll agree with. looks nice but it's a step in the wrong direction for usability IMO.


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 Re: my thoughts

 
 by kiras on: Sep 26 2005
 
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This means that it shouldn't be a full image browser, a music player, nor a contact viewer, nor anything else that is appart from a web browser and a file browser.

All: contacts, music, mail can be in files. Best for files browsing are files browser such as Konqueror. It is nothing bag if you can filter mp3 and play this in single window. Konqueror already that doing. Also, in Konqueror we can preview some files. Some times it useful, some times I need launch stand alone aplications.


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 Re: Re: my thoughts

 
 by xworm on: Sep 26 2005
 
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Best for files browsing are files browser such as Konqueror. It is nothing bag if you can filter mp3 and play this in single window.


OK i totaly disagree here. Unless we totaly change the file browsing paradigm of konqueror browsing through files will never be quite as browsing through mp3s. That's why I have my mp3s allmost layed
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 Re: my thoughts

 
 by meneerdik on: Sep 26 2005
 
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"thought wouldn't it be cool if they just made windows 3D like a cube and you could use all the sides for something."

I think I would get lost when every application has 6 sides.

"Then it occurred to me that I normally when configuring windows want to still see what I'm configuring. and in some cases want to still use that window and just alt+tab between config and window."

What's the difference between alt+tab and flipping the window over? Except that window flipping saves screen space..

"So it would be a very interesting idea very pretty.. but would it be usable? I personally think No."

I doubt if it would work for big applications with lots of options, like Konqueror. But for small applications that you hardly ever run maximized, it may be very cool.


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 um... no

 
 by illogic-al on: Sep 26 2005
 
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Not to be a negative nancy, but, I honestly don't think this is much more than a rethinking of a longhorn design (read: bad)
Longhorn looks cool, but longhorn is windows. We should be innovating not following everyone else, we have enough talented people in the KDE/Linux community to make this happen.
On to some specifc gripes: There is absolutely no need for SQl syntax in order to search for something. Thats what the console is for. Gui gives gui options. I doubt the "geeks" would find this as useful as just firing up a console and the "less geeks" would crap their pants at the very sight.

Flip windows idea is _very_ interesting however and something I would love to see (we can dream :-)
Keep those ideas coming but make them more original and innovative will yah ;-)


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 Re: um... no

 
 by meneerdik on: Sep 26 2005
 
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I think it's rather stupid to use the answer to the question

"Does Windows have that feature?"

to determine if something is a good idea or not. Keeping your mind open for all options is important if you want to achieve something.

Not every employee at Microsoft is a complete nut case.


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 Re: um... no

 
 by brabbelfish on: Feb 5 2006
 
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Please, stop comparing ervery upcoming idea with windows or OSX.
Me for example, have no experience with windows newer than win2k and I don't care what MS is inventing and a Mac I have never used.


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 compliments

 
 by koral on: Sep 26 2005
 
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lots of good ideas everywhere. flipping windows (aka programs) to configure their appearance/usage/features is killer stuff imho!!
You have good ideas, great fantasy. Please go on freeing it and eventually developers will pick up many more of your suggestions!!


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 kde 4

 
 by cyrtainne on: Oct 3 2005
 
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The good thing about KDE and Linux in general, it that you CAN customize it however you want. The default KDE look for one person can be totally different from what someone else's desktop looks like.

I'm sure the KDE development team will surprise us all with a beautiful desktop when KDE 4 comes out.


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 by RedHyena on: Oct 5 2005
 
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Its still too early to be judging anything about KDE4, Though this looks very promising, its good to keep our originality.
I have seen what sun has done with looking glass and Im not that impressed. The 3d affect seems usless in an actual productive envirement. After the novelty wears off im shure many would agree. KDE4 should focus on improving its usability, the desktop (Superkaramba shows great possibilities), Konqureor and more could benifit much from some minor speed tweeks.
I mayself, would hate to see KDE4 end up copying microsoft. Its bad enough that microsoft cant come up with anything without copying apple and linux. (More specificly KDE's desktop) We should improve kde to make it better and more original.


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 Using Konqeror

 
 by pobox90210 on: Feb 20 2006
 
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I think using Konq for most things is a great idea. It "could" make the app rather large and bloated however, but if done right, I suspect that this could be the way of the desktop.

I like it.


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I don't work here. I'm a consultant.

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