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Configuration experience level

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KDE Improvement

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Configuration experience level
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Downloads:  1503
Submitted:  May 25 2005
Updated:  Jul 5 2005

Description:

I am an advanced linux user, but my sister is just a beginner. I discovered that she is afraid of application(Konqueror) configuration,because it is too advanced for her and she is overwhelmed.
I found the solution in xine-ui setup : "Configuration experience level" with the following levels:-beginner -advanced -expert -Master
each level shows more and more configuration options(options not shown are set to default;Master shows ALL options possible).

More usefull can be the existence of a small number of levels(for ex two: normal & advanced)

This should be implemented using
-radio buttons(see the picture attached) or
-comboboxes or
-buttons that increase the current level(like an "Advanced" button) or
-tabs or
-sliders(Every widget in the Control Panel should have some difficulty value attached and based on the slider's value, the widget will be shown or hidden.)
IMPORTANT:When u select an advanced level it should not open a new window(tab) with the new options, instead it should insert every new option into the its category(along the old options) and mark it(another color or a *) as advanced.

This idea can(should) be implemented in all configuration tools(like Control Center).

If you agree please click the download link,vote and
POST your (good)comments/ideas there so the KDE developers see them.
All ideas are welcome : this is the way open source software quality increases!


WE REALLY WANT YOUR OPINION & IDEAS !!




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 Sliders

 
 by bram85 on: Jun 5 2005
 
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I have also thought of this option on the way back from FOSDEM, a couple of months ago. I think a slider widget might be more appropiate for this, ranging from "easy" to "advanced".
Every widget in the Control Panel should have some difficulty value attached, and based on the slider's value, the widget will be shown or hidden.


Bram Schoenmakers
KDE Netherlands (www.kde.nl)

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 Re: Sliders

 
 by zvonSully on: Jun 6 2005
 
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Very good idea. I added it to the description


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 Re: Re: Sliders

 
 by raditzman on: Jun 12 2005
 
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I think this idea should be discussed, perhaps for implementation in kde 4 (plasma)... why don't you check the www.kde-artists.org which is a new site for artists who want to help develop the new look for kde 4. It's very cool, because that site is meant to guide the developers, instead of what has happened until now, developers guiding the user-interface.

You seem to have some nice ideas, go there and show them!!!


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 Very bad idea

 
 by rgfree on: Jun 6 2005
 
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This idea comes up quite often
whenever there is a seemingly confusing user interface.
My arguments against it:
1) This very often takes ANY incentive
to reorganize a cluttered config
dialog. Expert users
who need/wants lots of options
are left with an extremely crowded
interface and when they are
complaining people will say: Hey,
just set your level to "basic".
2) It's difficult to define
what "basic" is. Some people
need these options, some people
other options. And even worse:
When it's set to "basic" you
never know if you are missing
important options you actually
want. The video player you
mentioned using this technology
is a great example:
I would consider myself an
expert user but not if it
comes to video-codecs. I just
wanted to play my movie files.
So, I chose "basic" in said
dialog. Unfortunately a very
important option (cant quite
remember which one, I think
it had sth. to do with "buffer
size") was wrong, but not
visible for me. Finally I
found a doc on the internet.
More confusion: It describes
an option but the option isnt
there. Did I use the wrong
version?
Even worse scenario: You
set an option in advance
mode, switch back to basic and
never find it again.
To sum it: No, I definitely would
not want that. Really afraid
users like my mum would never
ever use a config dialog - no
matter who easy it is. Medium
users can learn it if someone
shows it to them. It doesnt matter
then if there are other options
as well - they will ignore them.
So, the target audience for this
idea doesnt really exist. It's
a typical geek idea making
apps even worse. Did you ever
notice that neither Microsoft
nor Apple uses that approach though
they have large usability labs.
Would you want a car that you need
to set to advanced mode to be
able to switch on fog lights?

IMO there is often a better
way to organize things instead
of just hiding them. Re-thinking
dialogs is difficult but
necessary to create a great
interface for all.


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 Re: Very bad idea

 
 by isma on: Jun 12 2005
 
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Man, I think you've hit the point.
Begginers just don't find the settings dialog... advanced users kwnow how to find the things... but may be a bit harder...

If all the settings are auto-explanatory, and well placed in dialogs everybody could fit all things to his/her own needings.

By the way... there are a bit options in Kicker settings under "Advanced.." button, that are IMHO really necesary (transparency, and "handles" of applets visible/invisible) but it's so much space wasted on button background and tiles... just an example of what can happen if every app spread its settings in easy/advance...

Anyway.. what moves this topic is true... we need better settings dialogs, and it's good to think about possible solutions.

Greets!


Wer ein Stein ins Wasser wirft, verändert das Meer
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 Re: Re: Very bad idea

 
 by aseigo on: Jun 12 2005
 
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re: tiles settings in kicker... all of that crap is going away in kde4 =)


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 Re: Very bad idea

 
 by aseigo on: Jun 12 2005
 
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agreed. this just doesn't work out very well in practice.

it's been tried before on other platforms and abandoned as the flaws became obvious.

people are not uniformly "beginners" or "advanced" and are very bad at figuring out where they are on such a spectrum. developers who struggle with creating config dialogs would only make more mistakes with this sort of system. and finally, configuring configuration dialogs with metaconfigurations is, if one thinks about it for a few moments, pretty ludicrous =)


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 Re: Very bad idea

 
 by zvonSully on: Jun 12 2005
 
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I am the reporter of this "Improvement". If this will be implemented, I will use ONLY the advanced tab/button/.../. :) The problem is with beginners who are afraid to configure and let ALL the options on default. A little number of options and the ability to show the "hidden" ones will help them because once they learn the basic options they will try the "advanced" ones from curiosity.
When u select advanced it should not open a new window(tab) with the new options, instead it should insert every new option into the its category(along the old options) and mark it(another color or a *) as advanced.


zvonS|_|lly
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 Few Thoughts

 
 by spiryt on: Jun 13 2005
 
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Perhaps setting of the levels should be made with the KDE Start Wizard. Or even by default the begginer option should be automatically assumed. Experts can change it later in the preferences. That would be sensible option if we want a wider adoption of the KDE desktop or OSS desktop in general.


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 Stop updating

 
 by vide on: Jul 5 2005
 
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Could you please stop to do fake updates only to get your "suggestion" always on the top of kde-apps.org? There are real and serious applications that deserve this place, and there are better places to discuss your topic.

This thing is getting irritating.

Sidenote: before answering, please stop a while and think about if every people which opened a wish on bugs.kde.org start flooding kde-apps to get attention on their wish.


"There is no stronger drug than reality"
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 Re: Stop updating

 
 by zvonSully on: Jul 5 2005
 
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I updated the text in the message! I added some ideas!
if u don't like it BLOW me


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 Re: Re: Stop updating

 
 by vide on: Jul 5 2005
 
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There is no sense to keep this topic here and on bugs.kde.org at the same time, moreover if you're using a site meant to publish REAL APPLICATIONS. Suggestions/idea/improvements go on bugs.kde.org as wishes, as you already did. So, keep the question there. If there are KDE users thinking about this topic, they will try to open a wish on bugs.kde.org, see the one you reported and join it.

I'll repeat myself: think if every wish on bugs.kde.org has a repetead entry on kde-apps.org. It would be a mess.


"There is no stronger drug than reality"
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 great idea

 
 by protoman on: Jul 5 2005
 
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Miranda-im also have this option.
Basically it hides the not comkon options from user. Ieven I that love tweaking and messing on configs find it usefull when I want to quickly find something that I'm not finding.


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