-
 KDE-Apps.org Applications for the KDE-Desktop 
 GTK-Apps.org Applications using the GTK Toolkit 
 GnomeFiles.org Applications for GNOME 
 MeeGo-Central.org Applications for MeeGo 
 CLI-Apps.org Command Line Applications 
 Qt-Apps.org Free Qt Applications 
 Qt-Prop.org Proprietary Qt Applications 
 Maemo-Apps.org Applications for the Maemo Plattform 
 Java-Apps.org Free Java Applications 
 eyeOS-Apps.org Free eyeOS Applications 
 Wine-Apps.org Wine Applications 
 Server-Apps.org Server Applications 
 apps.ownCloud.com ownCloud Applications 
--
-
 KDE-Look.org Artwork for the KDE-Desktop 
 GNOME-Look.org Artwork for the GNOME-Desktop 
 Xfce-Look.org Artwork for the Xfce-Desktop 
 Box-Look.org Artwork for your Windowmanager 
 E17-Stuff.org Artwork for Enlightenment 
 Beryl-Themes.org Artwork for the Beryl Windowmanager 
 Compiz-Themes.org Artwork for the Compiz Windowmanager 
 EDE-Look.org Themes for your EDE Desktop 
--
-
 Debian-Art.org Stuff for Debian 
 Gentoo-Art.org Artwork for Gentoo Linux 
 SUSE-Art.org Artwork for openSUSE 
 Ubuntu-Art.org Artwork for Ubuntu 
 Kubuntu-Art.org Artwork for Kubuntu 
 LinuxMint-Art.org Artwork for Linux Mint 
 Arch-Stuff.org Art And Stuff for Arch Linux 
 Frugalware-Art.org Themes for Frugalware 
 Fedora-Art.org Artwork for Fedora Linux 
 Mandriva-Art.org Artwork for Mandriva Linux 
--
-
 KDE-Files.org Files for KDE Applications 
 OpenTemplate.org Documents for OpenOffice.org
 GIMPStuff.org Files for GIMP
 InkscapeStuff.org Files for Inkscape
 ScribusStuff.org Files for Scribus
 BlenderStuff.org Textures and Objects for Blender
 VLC-Addons.org Themes and Extensions for VLC
--
-
 KDE-Help.org Support for your KDE Desktop 
 GNOME-Help.org Support for your GNOME Desktop 
 Xfce-Help.org Support for your Xfce Desktop 
--
openDesktop.orgopenDesktop.org:   Applications   Artwork   Linux Distributions   Documents    LinuxDaily.com    Linux42.org    OpenSkillz.com   
 
Artwork
News
Groups
Knowledge
Events
Forum
People
Jobs
Register
Login



Sponsoring


-
- Content .- Fans (2) . 

Better Dolphin Usability Mockup

  

KDE4 Brainstorm

Score 66%
Better Dolphin Usability Mockup
zoom


Better Dolphin Usability Mockup
zoom


Better Dolphin Usability Mockup
zoom


Downloads:  315
Submitted:  Sep 18 2008
Updated:  Oct 16 2008

Description:

These are some ideas for improving Dolphin usability and integration with some KDE4 services, like Nepomuk.

Added a small conceptual videoclips in download.

After people comments, I explore a way of use with a simple mouse
buttons combination.

10/10/08
Better e-mail integration with nepomuk service. The Files and related comment could be sended to a friend with simple click on "Email this" link below Tags.




LicenseCreative Commons by
Send to a friend
Subscribe
Other  Artwork  from kurtz77
Report inappropriate content



-

 Great idea

 
 by nimrodel on: Sep 18 2008
 
Score 50%

I really love this idea !
But I think,if it's integrated in KDE, that we'll to wait for KDE 4.3 or 4.4...


Reply to this

-

 Re: Great idea

 
 by arjantop on: Sep 18 2008
 
Score 50%

dolphin is not photo/video editor


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by kurtz77 on: Sep 19 2008
 
Score 50%

I don't work everyday on "Pirelli Calendar" or in a Hollywood blockbuster to justify a complex application like the Gimp or Lives.
Dolphin don't replace these applications, it should simply allow a very basic functions (like resize or color adjust or a basical editing) on my files everytime I need this.
For me, it could be another way to managing my files through a modern and really flexible file manager.


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by kurtz77 on: Sep 19 2008
 
Score 50%

Errata corrige:
Dolphin doesn't replace these applications.

Sorry :-P


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by adz21c on: Sep 20 2008
 
Score 50%

I can see how this is a nice idea but I have to agree with arjantop, this is inappropriate use of dolphin. Dolphin is a file manager and that is all it is supposed to be, not a "Contextual File Manager" as you described it, that's why it was created even though we already had konqueror. It's not that dolphin is missing these features, its designed to be just a file manager which makes the application lightweight and very easy to use since unnecessary functionality is stripped out. For example what you are describing (with the image version at least) can be achieved in KDE using separate applications working together to achieve your goal (which I believe is one of the goals of KDE4, by stripping out this stuff they get more manageable code which should mean that applications are more stable and possibly faster, which seems to be the case for dolphin and gwenview, then each application offers you the services you require to get jobs done, think SOA). Dolphin, gwenview and kmail (ok kmail might seem heavyweight compared to the other two, but you can launch only the composer part of the application so its still quick and lightweight, also it not as heavyweight as it might first seem since it is still a very focussed application, just seems heavy weight since it is usually used as part of kontact) can achieve this task. Dolphin navigates to the image and launches gwenview, gwenview offers simple image manipulation abilities such as cropping (think of it as a day to day image viewer and manipulation) then gwenview should (although currently doesn't from what I see) have an email to option that launches the kmail composer automatically attaching the image (and now the composer is open using drag and drop you can add more, or select more than one file then click email option attaching multiple emails on launch) then sends the email. Alternatively if you don't need to change the image in anyway then dolphin should have the email too option (again, currently doesn't).

As you can this would add very little code (if any at all since its context menu's so its more configuration than coding) so the chances of compromising any applications stability and maintainability is so negligible it's not worth mentioning (while your changes shouldn't make much of a difference to maintainability and stability, it opens the door to more and more similar style changes (lots of little one of tasks) being added and suddenly dolphin is no longer lightweight adding the potential for instabilities and over complexity). It also keeps each application very simple and easy to learn on an individual basis (which in my experience is surprisingly a lot easier for novice computer users, took a while for people who I know, who barely use computers, to start flipping images in Windows inbuilt image preview rather than launching a bulky image editor, they liked the separation as it gave them focus and less to remember when looking at each application, they only started using the built in windows one because the image editor wasn't installed so they were forced to get used to explorers built in image viewer).

The context menus method certainly doesn't look as slick as your idea, and certainly takes a bit longer (but not much longer since all the applications are lightweight so they are quick to use and launch quickly) and feels a bit more bloated since you are now working with 3 windows/applications (although if you use konqueror you can have gwenview embedded so you can drop that down to 2 windows, but personally I prefer dolphin over konqueror since its lightweight) instead of 1, but I think in it's own way it is much simpler (gives less for people to learn about each application) and the benefits of knowing your applications have not been broken in a new release (if it even requires a new release) far out way the few seconds (was only about 5 seconds longer for same activity for me, not rushing myself, and that is without the assistance of context menus, that's launching the kmail composer via krunner) you save.

If it was to be implemented like this I would personally want it to be a plugin that can be disabled/uninstalled so I can keep dolphin lightweight and more guaranteed stability or simply fork dolphin for a "contextual file manager", as I previously stated this doesn't look like one of the goals of dolphin, or maybe this is more of a konqueror style improvement. Also just on another note about the quick mail piece, if this was implemented I would not put the e-mail address in the location bar. Dolphin's UI revolves around a UI design pattern called 'centre stage', so all the elements around the file browser (in the centre) manipulate it (places sends the browser to another location, tools bars changes its look and behaviour, the location bar changes the location in a more flexible way than places, preview panel provides information on selected files). The e-mail address is not manipulating the file browser so really it should be inside the quick mail panel (although since emailing the file(s) is a whole task in itself I personally think is should be in a different window altogether, hence my preference for the separate applications working together approach :-) )

To conclude I am personally voting this as a bad idea ... I prefer to give feedback when I have the time as at least then they can see why and either ignore because I don't know what I am talking about :-P or see the light and refine there idea into something that follows what I am saying because I know what I am talking about :-P (that's a matter of perspective I guess ;-) ).

Although you have pointed out one thing we could do with, a simple video editing application that just allows really basic stuff, drag a file in and append it to another, sort of a gwenview of the video editing world.


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by kurtz77 on: Sep 20 2008
 
Score 50%

Ok.It's your opinion.
I imagine a file manager, today, like a compact software that allows basically functions on all kind of files.
Rotate, crop or resize a photo, send an e-mail or edited a series of video, for me, is a very, very basical functions.
I don't manage my files in other mode.
Copy/Paste function or re-order collections by Name, Type or extension isn't the only goal of a modern file manager.
If the problem, for you and other, is the contextual interface for managing photo or video or mp3, I have some idea for showing how I should use a simple 3/5 buttons mouse with Dolphin or any other file manager without any kind of interface.

See you soon ;-)


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by adz21c on: Sep 20 2008
 
Score 50%

"I imagine a file manager, today, like a compact software that allows basically functions on all kind of files.
Rotate, crop or resize a photo, send an e-mail or edited a series of video, for me, is a very, very basical functions.
I don't manage my files in other mode."

I agree it's not an bad idea (needs some more fleshing out as I discussed with the inappropriate placement of email address in the gui and breaking the centre stage pattern) for some file managers to have this functionality, some people do prefer the extra complexity in an application as it can improve productivity, even if it's only seconds (it all adds up ;-) ). My point is that I don't think its something that goes with the goal of dolphin (a lightweight, yet nice looking, file manager). It is probably something that is suited to more heavyweight file managers (hence either make it a plugin, like firefox can have extensions .. keeps it light but can bulk up if you wish) or better yet fork dolphin and make a beefy version for the people who want the dolphin feel with that extra power (and potential for problems of course). It just that the feature doesn't fit with dolphin's style that makes it a bad idea for me.


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Great idea

 
 by schoenix on: Oct 5 2008
 
Score 50%

i like this idea.

this is exactly what i want to do with a file manager. ok you can say do this in konqueror. but i don't like this webbrowser and file manager thing.

i liked, i sadly have to say liked because there are a lots of changes in this gnome direction, because of its flexibility and its configurability. "oh, funktionality and configurability can confuse my grandmother." this is blabla, because my grandmother wouldn't use linux. i think linux is for, i call them powerusers, so an interface for linux should one for this people too. "i want to have lightwight applications." ok this is right, but if i have to run two or three lightwight applications, instad of one heavywight application, for doing the same thing, it is not more lightwight. if something like this idea is a plugin or something like this you can disable it. whats the problem? i think this kde thing is that you can configurate it.

at the moment dolphin is like nautilus, and i don't like nautilus.
what i want to do with a file manager is first, the usual things, but i want to do several things whith it. yet this information bar is emty like a desert.

i want to see a preview of pictures in the context bar and i want to rotate them or some basic operations like this. i want to hear songs and i want to do this with one click in the context bar, eventualy it should show some informations from the id3-tags and i want to change this tags there. i want to see a preview of a video and i want to change file permisions in this bar. this are my basic file operations, and i want to do them in the file manager. oh i like this other application, but i don't want to start amarok for one song, for example. this is my definition of usability.



-

 Great

 
 by Israphel on: Sep 20 2008
 
Score 50%

It's great!! maybe the non-linear video editor is a bit crazy :P I don't know how many RAM would dolphin need if he could do all that things.


Reply to this

-

 Re: Great

 
 by kurtz77 on: Sep 22 2008
 
Score 50%

One tool for more activity.
This could improve my workflow...
It's just a dream, I think ;-P


Reply to this

-

 Uhm...

 
 by sabaal on: Sep 22 2008
 
Score 50%

Am I the only on who thinks this looks exactly like Konqueror? It is the "everything browser" after all, so it seems like a better candidate for this kind of functionality than Dolphin does. I like Dolphin because it's simple and compact (I still can't figure out why they added tabs), and I would like it to stay that way, but there's no reason your idea can't still exist on a program that's designed to be complex and multi-functional.


Reply to this

-
.

 Re: Uhm...

 
 by DanaKil on: Oct 16 2008
 
Score 50%

A well designed UI should hide complexity and only shows the useful features when they are needed, so if it is well done, Dolphin could be simple and extremely powerful (use KParts and so on)

Btw, I just love the tabs in dolphin (even if they could be much better :) ) and I don't see why they complexify the application. If you don't use them, don't show the associated buttons.


Reply to this

-

 Re: Re: Uhm...

 
 by kurtz77 on: Oct 16 2008
 
Score 50%

Yes, the point is just this!
"What you need, when you need it." :)

Thanks


Reply to this

-
.

 plugin

 
 by damipereira on: Nov 16 2008
 
Score 50%

It would be great if these kind of things could be plugins, so if I want to edit photos I click something like a "image editor view" button and start editing. It shouldn't be the default, because dolphin tries to be a simple file manager and that's great for most people.
But for those that do something like this a lot, a plugin for it would be great.
There could also be plugins for, in example edit text or manage music(edit tags and format conversion)


Reply to this

Add commentBack






-

-
Do you like or dislike Ubuntu Unity?
 Yes, unity is alien technology!
 It is less confusing than Gnome 3 default, shell.
 Granny thinks it is much more usable than Gnome 2
 Canonical is embarrasing itself with this split project
 Gnome 3 default shell is much better
 I dislike Unity, Gnome 3 default shell is alien technology!
 None of the above, I like the 2Gb for free and Apple alike behavior. Will post a comment instead

resultmore




 
 
 Who we are
Contact
More about us
Frequently Asked Questions
Register
Twitter
Blog
Explore
Artwork
Jobs
Knowledge
Events
People
Updates on identi.ca
Updates on Twitter
Facebook App
Content RSS   
News RSS   
Discussion RSS   
Events RSS   

Participate
Groups
Forum
Add Artwork
Public API
About KDE-Look.org
Legal Notice
Spreadshirt Shop
CafePress Shop
Advertising
Sponsor us
Report Abuse
 

Copyright 2001-2014 KDE-Look.org Team  
All rights reserved. KDE-Look.org is not liable for any content or goods on this site.
All contributors are responsible for the lawfulness of their uploads.
KDE and K Desktop Environment are trademarks of KDE e.V.